The Public Are To Blame If We Lose in Afghanistan

Bill Rammell MP (pictured) has been trying to substantiate our military's deployment in wars because he thinks we, the public, 'will become so risk-averse, cynical and introverted that we find ourselves in inglorious and impotent isolation by default.'

In his speech to the Institute of Public Policy Research, he reflects a growing frustration within the government and armed forces that public tolerance for military operations and media-led cynicism at the motives for British military action are undermining the current effort in Afghanistan.

"... Our adversaries, particularly those who cannot match our military, will attempt to outlast us and hope to say our support at home. This is particularly true of the foe we face in Afghanistan."

So it's all our fault, yours and mine. We're responsible for the mess the government have made of the Afghanistan invasion. We just don't understand he insists.

Mr Rammell, I know this government have done their best to dumb down the level of education in this country, but there are still many with plenty common sense. We don't need a working knowledge of the military to know that their deployment in Afghanistan is nothing to do with the security of Britain. Is propping up a corrupt government the job of our armed forces? No.

Our military do their job on the order of their masters. Their masters are you and your ilk.

This speech is the prelude to your admission of failure regarding Afghanistan. History should have told you that this war would be unwinnable but, for reasons which will become clear in future years, your government insisted our presence was necessary. What little support other countries have given to this conflict is now slipping away and they're planning to withdraw their troops.

'... increasing public cynicism threatened to undermine the ability of British Forces to win in Afghanistan.'

It's despicable you're attempting to blame us for your own inadequacies Mr Rammell. The public support the military and they know that. Can't you see it's you and your government the public don't support? The Iraq Inquiry is already showing us your government's decision-making methods concerning the deployment of our forces and it's not a pretty picture.

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I missed this on the Daily Politics but Fitaloon has been kind enough to post it. To think this man, Bill Rammell and his ilk are responsible for the lives of thousands of our troops beggars belief. Until today I'd never heard of Mr Rammell and after watching this video I know why.

Key bored Warrior has also picked up on this by asking 'Why does it take 12 months to move helicopters from Iraq to Afghanistan?'

He mentions 10 chinooks are there but are more often than not used to fly dignitaries around such as visiting politicians and Afghani tribal leaders. That is common knowledge in Helmand. Several times I have suggested politicians keep away from the front line as their presence adds nothing and detracts many from their dangerous duties. In today's world of technology it would be perfectly possible for politicians to see conditions and take part in talks with senior officers from the comfort of their Westminster offices. Alas, they prefer the opportunity of the front line photo call and they should be ashamed.

Most political visits are completely unnecessary and should be halted. Unfortunately nobody in the Westminster government listens to the military and they have stopped bothering to speak out.

The service chiefs felt that there was no point because Mr Brown, both at No 11 and at No 10, was not going to be an interested listener.

What a disgrace especially when right at this moment I'm listening to radio broadcasting the sorrowful arrival of eight more of our fallen.

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