Tuesday, 11 May 2010

Equality - What Equality



We've had Gordon Brown give his resignation speech outside No 10 accompanied by his wife.

We've had Gordon Brown visit Buckingham Palace to offer his resignation which was accepted. Again he was accompanied by his wife.

David Cameron has been to the Palace to accept an invitation from the Queen to form a new government. He was accompanied by his wife.

During the past six days I have watched the machinations of testosterone fueled discussions on the media. Women appeared to be wheeled out as an after-thought.

In the UK over 50% of the population is female, yet the television coverage could well have been back in the 50s or 60s when no women, not even Prime Minister's wives, were publicly paraded.

Much as I want to see more women having positions of power in Westminster politics, can we stop the fashion of Prime Ministers' and party leaders' wives being part of the power of the UK?
It certainly does not do the cause of equality any good.

We now have another Prime Minister. I hope his wife is not going to be his full-time PR.

32 comments:

Mavis B Sausage said...

I think you can relax on that front Subrosa, after all Mrs. Cameron has her own job, far from the corridors of power and she doesn't show any sign of changing that. At least (unlike Mrs. Brown) she doesn't seem to be siamese twinned to her husband! Mrs. B looked like she was about to climb onto the lectern when her husband resigned....

Key bored warrior. said...

No disrespect but the last female PM did no favours to women. Harrman and Jaqui Smith are poor examples.

I agree with the point however that women need a better profile in politics.

Very few good women are attracted to the job.

On the scottish scene the only one I can think of is Nicola Sturgeon, the labour benches females fill me with dread, come to that so do the males.

subrosa said...

I noticed Mrs Cameron stood well to the side when her husband was talking outside No 10 Mave. Good for her. This wife thing has irritated me more and more the past few weeks.

I've never considered myself a feminist and have worked in a man's world several times but it is so disappointing to see no women involved in these 'discussions'.

Mind you women have to take some responsibility for it. We allow it.

subrosa said...

Thatcher did do something for women KBW. She showed us just how testosterone driven our political system is. She had a very hard time being surrounded by some men who certainly thought women shouldn't be in power.

Harman, for me, has been a responsible member of the labour government. She's seldom spoken out of turn and has given a steady performance. I'm talking about her actions not her politics.

What can I say about Ms Smith without laughing?

Mr. Mxyzptlk said...

In all honesty those women should of been left at home in the kitchen..where they belong all this Political stuff which is meant for Men would only hurt their pretty little heads.


as what used to be posted up in many pubs in Yorkshire on Sunday(A Yorkshire man tells me)

Pudding burners not wanted here

Mavis B Sausage said...

Oh I do understand Subrosa, I'm not a feminist either (I dread being any sort of '-ist'). I've just always assumed that women are equal and that it is mainly ourselves that hold us back.
I have certainly brought up the Chipolatas (my daughters) to believe that they can be whatever they want to be. So far one is a chef -I swear she thrives on the macho atmosphere- and the youngest is doing a civil engineering degree.

subrosa said...

Now now Niko, you've the saying wrong. The Yorkshire saying is:

Pudding eaters not wanted here.

subrosa said...

It's hard to break into male dominated circles Mave, although these your daughters have chosen are great choices. Catering, due to generations of wonderful 'cooks', had to give in eventually. :)

Engineering wanted women but found it hard to attract them. I know many of the engineering courses at Strathclyde have a healthy intake of females these days. Super profession to enter I think. (I'm only jealous!).

But politicians having wives clinging to them doesn't do a thing for me - even though they've possibly had umpteen think tanks telling them differently.

My experiences in male-dominated situations weren't pleasant. Men don't cover resentment well. :)

Oldrightie said...

As a man who has always regarded women as the superior sex, I am not qualified to comment on this post!

subrosa said...

OR, you're one in a million. I know no other who would acknowledge that without some form of bribery. ;)

Mrs Rigby said...

When Thatcher was PM we hardly saw her husband.

I'm not sure I like the 'wheeling out the wives' when things get awkward etc., and nor do I approve of the all women shortlists to force the electorate to vote women into office.

There are more women going into politics/studying PPE at University, but it does seem to be something boys/men prefer as a subject, which means women move into politics later.

To be honest, if I never see or hear a haranguing female MP's voice again I'll be happy.

And the sooner they get rid of all the female tannoy voices the better, including all the nagging ones at airports, bus stations, railway stations and in lifts.

muddypaws said...

Do I detect a touch of mocking irony?
You have one of the best blogs in the country
informative
thought provoking
and I dare say influencial,
......yet you do a skit on puir wee wimmin.

You have a wicked sense of humour.

subrosa said...

I would like to see more strong women MPs Mrs R. Nicola Sturgeon springs to mind. The SNP possibly have the best balance of male/female talent out of all the parties. I'm not mentioning labour because the talent there is questionable. :)

I agree. I think tannoys etc should have deep base voices. It's said piercing women's voices carry better but there's nothing like a rich basso profundo.

subrosa said...

Muddypaws, thank you for the compliment but i assure you I'm not influential in the least.

Puir wee wimmin? Nane o' us ir puir.

Well that's perhaps untrue since I'm sure many of my age group were hit by Brown's raiding of our pensions and the disappearance of the 10 tax band.

Oh there's Nickyboy on the TV. Praising Gordon Brown too. A lesson in insincerity.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Rosie, I'm fed up seeing the bloody wifs as well. Beown even had his weans. They should have been in bed. In Kirkcaldy!

subrosa said...

They will be now DL. No more free flights from London to Edinburgh for the Browns though. :)

Snarky Basterd said...

I'm like Oldrightie, not qualified to give an opinion ... except to say that I was a weeny teen when Thatcher was PM and I've always thought she was tough as nails and admirable, but then I was an idealistic little Snarky Basterd and still am, liking my leaders with big balls (as opposed to limp-wristed clowns, like the one I'm stuck with for 2 more years and the one you just got rid of). Obviously my perspective is that of the memory of a 14-year-old boy, but its rooted in Thatcher's famous quote -- "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" -- and I have to wonder if any politician these days would have the stones to say such a thing now.

banned said...

Over half of the elctorate are female SR so it's in your hands.

It was very creepy of Brown to force his children to share his walk of shame along downing Street

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zc9uUEmcJ8

DAD said...

Sarah had to be with her husband, when he saw the Queen, to make sure that he did resign.

subrosa said...

I doubt if anyone has Snarky. We're a pc society now and that wouldn't be pc - not now we've the ConDems in Westminster.

subrosa said...

It is in our hands banned but I do think men in politics make it extraordinarily difficult for women to get ahead. They like them in the background.

It was strange wasn't it. Thanks for the link. I'll watch it once I've had some breakfast. :)

subrosa said...

There was something unhealthy about her constant presence during his campaign Dad. I do hope Cameron doesn't continue to have his wife hanging on his jacket tails.

Chuck said...

Mavis B and SubR, Why would you want to go all the way back to equality?

I agree that the trotting out of the 'dutiful little woman' is nauseating focus group stuuf, but I suspect Sarah is there to operate the remote controls for Gordon? Marvellous ventriloquist.

BrianSJ said...

Here is Rex Harrison posing the question for you SR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doz5w2W-jAY

subrosa said...

It was a little irony Chuck my title of equality.

But, on a serious note, I really think the relationship of any politician should not be used during their public service work.

Another reason is, if there was a single person standing as leader of a party, would that be held against them? Let's not forget, Brown only got married after pressure because it would 'look better'.

subrosa said...

Excellent Brian, I enjoyed that. A long time since I saw that film.

BrianSJ said...

The press wouldn't let Ted Heath away with his relationship staying private now. He wasn't really single. Society is (rightly) afraid of the lone wolf.

Uncle Marvo said...

I still have time for Sally Bercow though, but then she doesn't really support Mr B, she is a Labourite. So is he, probably.

subrosa said...

That's true Brian and I'm all for families. I just don't think it appropriate to have any of them wheeled out for PR purposes.

Tony Blair started this or was it John Major? I can't remember Maggie taking Denis everywhere.

subrosa said...

Your taste's in yer erm... mouth Marvo.

Seems like he's to be given the elbow and Ming Campbell installed if rumour is to be believed.

Dean MacKinnon-Thomson said...

Maggie won three landslides because she was authentic- she said "I want to destroy Union power", people believed her and she did it...now lover her or more likely loath her, but you knew what she was about....you couldn't say that about ANYONE who took over from her..

Major's lot where corrupt

Blair was a PR merchant

Brown has a cronic lier

Gods knows what Cleggaroon gives us---the ultimate PR machine? Like when transformers merge together to create the ultimate transformer or something :)

subrosa said...

Many who comment on Maggie these days were only toddlers when she was in power. That's life Dean.

We'll have to see what the ConDem lot deliver. Sounds good talk right now...

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