Sunday, 2 August 2009

The Home Secretary Replies



Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, explains the reasons he cannot stop Garry McKinnon's extradition. Writing in the Sunday Times, he emphasises the fact that it would be unlawful for the home secretary to intervene to prevent his extradition.

He also mentions that the court was clear Garry McKinnon should be tried in the United States because the crimes he is accused of committing - although they were conducted from a computer in his bedroom in the UK - did not remotely affect people in this country. They affected critical government security systems in America.

The article reveals no 'new' information which will be of help to the McKinnon campaign to have the case held in the UK. I should think they already know Mr Johnson's thoughts.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think it's becoming obvious to us all, that in line with all other "Comrades", in this evil Socialist junta, the former branch Secretary of the Communist Party Of Great Britain hates what he doesn't understand himself - I.E., The Internet.

subrosa said...

What a waste of good paper it was D & C. Even more a waste of time reading it really but we always hope one of them says something of substance.

Have you seen the article in the Torygraph about the secret Mandelson move? Too tired to post about it now but it could be true.

Anonymous said...

He's either bullshitting or he doesn't want to do anything about it.

He can elect to prosecute McKinnon in the UK, which would enable the HO to halt the extradition.

Is he out of his depth, like so many of his comrades?

Oldrightie said...

I tried to post. Fucked.

subrosa said...

Yes Fausty.

subrosa said...

What's up OR?

Oldrightie said...

I really feel hard done by. Yet if my trolls are able too stuff me, I still have you!

subrosa said...

Erm... is that a compliment OR? lol I shall accept it graciously, thank you.

Oldrightie said...

You really do not need beauty sleep. You do need to ask why this is happening. It's Dunblane.

Clarinda said...

Silly people - dont you know that it's only us plebs that break the law - politicians only make mistakes over porn films, ducks and plugs, hence their odious unco guidness over the hapless Mr Mackinnon?
Any decent caves going vacant?

Barking Spider said...

Even the high Court Judge said the Government should intervene and that Gary should be tried in the UK but Johnson has neither the spine, nor the desire to do anything about it - he didn't even have the guts to meet with Gary's mother, which I find despicable.

Oldrightie said...

I was with my MP tihs morning, God forgive my judgement.

Oldrightie said...

BS, if you can't sleep, why are you not also at my place?

Great Big Billygoat Gruff said...

I see Jenny Hjul has changed her photograph in The Sunday Times today.

Was is something we said?


-and FFSake there is no mention of Alex Salmond either!

Great Big Billygoat Gruff said...

Aw shit it is Joan McAlpine not Jenny Hjul.

They must have a cloning lab.

Munguin said...

I wonder how people would feel if Mr Makinnon had had more malicious intent and say broken into their bank and stolen their money? Anyway a positive result for Mr M is that as a result of all this he has had his aspergers diagnosed so maybe while in prison in the US he can get help and work toward a more fruitful use of his obvious talents.

subrosa said...

Barking, I've just heard Garry's mother on Sky and she insists Alan Johnson could intervene on mental health grounds.

subrosa said...

Oh dear OR, surely not second thoughts?

subrosa said...

Must have a look Billy. It could well be, don't you think?

subrosa said...

Billy, the sun's too hot obviously :)

subrosa said...

I would certainly like to think so Munguin and also that they put his considerable hacking talent to good use for their benefit.

subrosa said...

Clarinda, I heard about a chap called Fingal who may have a cave going on the west coast. Sounds rather lovely but the drawback I'm told, is midgies.

G Laird said...

Dear Subrosa

I have sent President Obama an email asking for him to help Gary McKinnon.

I see this as someone wanting to making an example of him and nothing to do with justice.

I would urge all people to go to the Whitehouse site and lodge a complaint.

Yours sincerely

George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

McGonagall said...

The UK is subservient to the US and must do as master says. End of story.

subrosa said...

Good for you George. I'm sure others will give your request kind consideration.

McGonagall said...

Consider the case of Leonard Peltier:

"The United States should be held accountable for Mr. Peltier's unlawful extradition from Canada in 1976. Documents released pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit proved that the U.S. Prosecutors and the FBI, in collusion with the Canadian prosecutor, prepared and submitted falsified affidavits to Canadian officials to obtain the extradition. Several court judges have recognized and condemned the shameful manner in which the extradition was obtained, yet Mr. Peltier's extradition was never reversed. This alone violates treaty protocol, extradition, and international law, especially the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and its Optional Protocol."

http://tiny.cc/UyvHY

subrosa said...

I didn't know about that scunnert, doesn't surprise me in the least either.

That was 33 years ago too and many more laws have been approved by the US since then. I'm off to read your link.

Clarinda said...

The incriminatory language used by Alan Johnson in referring to Mr Mackinnon's "crimes" etc. and his potentially slanderous statement linking Mr Mackinnon with the 9/11 destruction of the Twin Towers plus the defamatory witterings of Harriet Harman suggesting Mr Mackinnon could spend any jail term in the UK, strikes me as verging on subjudice in any court?
The pathetic attempt to reassure us that the US will take care of any health problems he has is problematic. Supposing the US find a medical expert of their choice to disagree with and reject Gary's recent diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome which may affect any trial process, verdict and potential penalty?
If our own courts failed to find necessary and sufficient evidence to satisfy adequate grounds for agreeing with the US charges and Gary is being extradicted based only on the bias of a document - that's some 'special relationship'.

subrosa said...

I'm becoming more and more confused about this case Clarinda when I should be the opposite.

Gary's mother was on Sky yesterday completely contradicting Johnson's article.

Did you see scunnert's comment and link about documentation?

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