tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post7730312261522334841..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Thursday's Question Time - A Senior Viewsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-11244005686229026072009-10-25T19:18:30.455+00:002009-10-25T19:18:30.455+00:00Allan some of these women at the bridge would have...Allan some of these women at the bridge would have done a much better job in exposing him for what he is.<br /><br />As you say, he never really had say more than a few words before he was shouted down. If only he'd been left alone to speak.<br /><br />Lost opportunity really.<br /><br />What surprised me most of all is that he came over as a spoilt adolescent who was playing politics and didn't believe anything he was saying.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36074743597167611842009-10-25T16:22:40.043+00:002009-10-25T16:22:40.043+00:00Having taken 2 small people around the Dr Who exib...Having taken 2 small people around the Dr Who exibition, my Saturday afternoon was good, at least until i heard about the events at New St Mirren Park.<br /><br />I can't really say that Im surprised at the reaction. To abandon the format of Question Time and (maybe unofficially) turn it into a Question Time BNP special backfired. Partialy down to the fact that everyone seemed intent to attack Griffin (some space for Griffin to let himself hang himself with his own retoric would have been a better tactic, Griffin must have been pleased to hear his words drowned out by inverted snobs behaving like BNP members), but the major reason was the poor panel.<br /><br />I have never rated Straw as a good debater, the Tory seemed to dissapear completely and Huhne was jusy anonymous. Bonnie Grier was a bit more dignafied but boobed towards the end. The BBC were correct to invite Griffin on to Question Time. I just wish the panelists were of a better caliber.Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13574173214924437278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-54389345497685241892009-10-25T09:21:30.416+00:002009-10-25T09:21:30.416+00:00I've not got the vibes of middle England these...I've not got the vibes of middle England these days apogee so I've no idea what type of person would vote BNP, except the obvious of course.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-50382004663478626492009-10-25T09:08:25.318+00:002009-10-25T09:08:25.318+00:00Hi there, All Seeing Eye.
The point I was trying t...Hi there, All Seeing Eye.<br />The point I was trying to make, and obviously did'nt, was that people know what they dont want in the way of policies, i.e. Government/labour; and the reported BNP policies on immigration, which a lot of people do.<br />There seems to be real hatred of the government out there, and people are supporting the BNP as less bad rather than better than.<br />The conservatives in this context are seen as same as the government and in this particular battle, largely irrelevent.<br />Whether BNP support holds up could depend on the Conservative policies,when they happen, but the BNP did get 2 MEP's !!!<br /><br />D.Apogeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942349358439102449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-39928200271026247842009-10-25T08:43:28.113+00:002009-10-25T08:43:28.113+00:00Hi SR
I quite agree with that,if the shower in pow...Hi SR<br />I quite agree with that,if the shower in power had fixed the problems that they were supposed to do,we would'nt have an immigration problem, or for that matter,a financial one, or a lot of others.<br />People will support the BNP precisely because the main parties and the MSM are making so much noise the BNP policies are not heard,except they are anti immigration; a lot of white, middle class and working class England will vote for that.<br /><br />D.Apogeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942349358439102449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-77062317637525107422009-10-25T03:55:55.644+00:002009-10-25T03:55:55.644+00:00They don't read the Sun or the Daily Record th...They don't read the Sun or the Daily Record then banned. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-6824305092175442532009-10-25T03:53:32.627+00:002009-10-25T03:53:32.627+00:00A warehouse worker that I spoke with on Friday had...A warehouse worker that I spoke with on Friday had never heard of Nick Griffin or QT, neither had my neighbour who works on a Tesco till.bannedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02406037760273820029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-18716695810221189662009-10-25T01:29:10.803+00:002009-10-25T01:29:10.803+00:00I do hope it dies a quick death DL, but it certain...I do hope it dies a quick death DL, but it certainly caused a stir. It's not often card playing women discuss anything other than cards at a tea break.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-87447841602756327092009-10-25T01:08:05.086+00:002009-10-25T01:08:05.086+00:00This subject hopefully next week will be forgotten...This subject hopefully next week will be forgotten. However the BBC messed up not by having him on but in the way the programme was directed. Griffin got the sympathy vote because as I said on my blog, no-one likes a bully. The BBc should apologise and leave it at that.Dark Lochnagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09086636653505467565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70553215402562785992009-10-25T01:35:06.407+01:002009-10-25T01:35:06.407+01:00Apogee, an interesting point about your blog trawl...Apogee, an interesting point about your blog trawling. I agree with your comments about the implications of stifling debate but am unsure about your starting point of the BNP "having more support than the public realise".<br /><br />Sometimes our blog-surfing-of-choice can be like an echochamber unless we make a conscious effort to dig further. My browsing for insight on this story found me across sites to varying extents sympathetic and unsympathetic to Nick Griffin yet all united around a belief that freedom of speech was a fundamental part of our democracy. And I agree - the man has a mandate from the voters and as such has a right to have himself heard in subrosa's bridge club.<br /><br />But this is a long way from those blogs you have read supporting those views themselves. Are you sure you're not mis-reading the support for his appearance as support for his views?All Seeing Eyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671520010496394878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-23245615364650041882009-10-25T01:32:30.863+01:002009-10-25T01:32:30.863+01:00Aye tris, in this pc world it is a wonder. Maybe ...Aye tris, in this pc world it is a wonder. Maybe it's because we're tucked away in the sticks. Anything north of Edinburgh is usually ignored as we know.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-79343753786098312872009-10-25T01:30:00.139+01:002009-10-25T01:30:00.139+01:00Hi Apogee, of course if the other parties had deal...Hi Apogee, of course if the other parties had dealt with the immigration numbers years ago, we wouldn't have the BNP on the rise.<br /><br />Interesting times indeed. I wonder if they'll hold their supporters.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-560776306518561102009-10-25T01:28:20.122+01:002009-10-25T01:28:20.122+01:00I do think that was the intention Del and to push ...I do think that was the intention Del and to push ratings up of course.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-71464333414843621262009-10-25T01:27:55.845+01:002009-10-25T01:27:55.845+01:00True John, who would have believed it. He's a...True John, who would have believed it. He's a despicable man and he did nothing to endear himself to the public on Thursday, but he cleverly never abused anyone either.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-66648861820857636962009-10-25T01:23:42.243+01:002009-10-25T01:23:42.243+01:00It is indeed BS, and both parties thought they wou...It is indeed BS, and both parties thought they would outsmart the BNP.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-18569547649047680212009-10-25T01:16:41.030+01:002009-10-25T01:16:41.030+01:00Brownlie, glowering is NOT permitted, it could be ...Brownlie, glowering is NOT permitted, it could be code for something.<br /><br />I remember years ago at one tournament, a chap kept insisting one of his opposition was sending messages to his partner because of the way he adjusted his specs.<br /><br />Aye, cards can cause serious emotions to surface.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-37140569781766341902009-10-25T01:13:41.659+01:002009-10-25T01:13:41.659+01:00It's not often I do attend ladies only WfW, th...It's not often I do attend ladies only WfW, they can be quite tense occasions as I'm sure you're aware.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-52297675820715960062009-10-25T01:12:52.268+01:002009-10-25T01:12:52.268+01:00It surprised me it was a point of conversation IPP...It surprised me it was a point of conversation IPP. Usually it's just small talk on these occasions.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-27360463714108183372009-10-25T00:48:12.204+01:002009-10-25T00:48:12.204+01:00Hi SR
Just trawling thru the many blogs over the ...Hi SR<br /><br />Just trawling thru the many blogs over the last couple of hours, I am starting to get a feeling that the BNP has a lot more support than the public realise as a group.<br />Seems they do not as a group realise this because the MSM and the BBC are feeding confusing disinformation to the public, probably because of political leanings.<br />It is starting to feel like people are so totally sick to death of the incumbent shower of incompetent, thieving, conniving,lying b******s who claim they are running the country, from the PM to the lowest councillor, that ANYTHING looks a better bet than the current.<br />Stopping the BNP from speaking is a particularly stupid thing to do if you think the BNP are so wrong.<br />Let them speak and let people decide for themselves. Or are the LIBLABCON afraid that people might like what the BNP say?<br />Could it be that people have been totally ignored, and yet at the same time ripped off by their elected "representatives", that all the individuals are saying,spontaneously, "enough is enough".<br />If the BNP from almost nowhere can<br />get the number of votes to elect 2 MEP's, the next G E could be "interesting" indeed! Although some people commenting on blogs seem to think it will be aborted in some way?!!<br />Old Chinese curse.......May you live in interesting times !!<br /><br />D.Apogeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942349358439102449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-53450403986185994262009-10-25T00:14:47.782+01:002009-10-25T00:14:47.782+01:00I watched the program and if the intention was to ...I watched the program and if the intention was to make Nick Griffin look like a monster, then it surely backfired on them.Mark The Skint Sailorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04892877003107509621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-81972156109988789932009-10-24T23:26:24.738+01:002009-10-24T23:26:24.738+01:00People now feel sorry for Nick Griffin.
A week ago...People now feel sorry for Nick Griffin.<br />A week ago you could not have believed this would ever be so.JPThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00796856414981086841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-25606468345990856692009-10-24T22:57:53.388+01:002009-10-24T22:57:53.388+01:00This stunt was the biggest mistake that the BBC an...This stunt was the biggest mistake that the BBC and their Labour masters have made in some time, SR.<br /><br />The Left have never been very good at judging public reaction and this latest gaffe is a real stinker!Barking Spiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968827142725464915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-18430541125293457612009-10-24T22:57:00.824+01:002009-10-24T22:57:00.824+01:00Good one SR.
It is absolutely amazing that the BB...Good one SR.<br /><br />It is absolutely amazing that the BBC managed to make a mess of this. For all the massively highly paid executives that they have and enormous amount that their "star" interviewers cost us (well you, as I don't have a tv), there still wasn't one of them that could make a fist of it.<br /><br />Even wee Border tv could have done much better.<br /><br />Oh, and as for bridge... as I've told you before I'm miles too stupid to begin to understand how to play it.... but I'm amazed that political correctness in Labour Britian allows a ladies only club, good thing though that is!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-92206042558075086532009-10-24T22:47:40.119+01:002009-10-24T22:47:40.119+01:00subrosa,
Personally I think the whole Griffin thi...subrosa,<br /><br />Personally I think the whole Griffin thing is a storm in a tea-cup and the press will soon move onto some other subject.<br /><br />Bridge is like another activities involving a partner (which I don't indulge in, being a wee free). <br /><br />You've got to be able to read your partner's mind and anticipate their every move and glower at them when they get it wrong. On completion, you then have the inquest - you should have done this, you should have done that, you were too ambitious there etc etc. Then you can make up and have a nice meal!brownliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09690872114535168567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-66771217086969752902009-10-24T22:07:36.236+01:002009-10-24T22:07:36.236+01:00SR,
as one bridge player to another....I forgive ...SR,<br /><br />as one bridge player to another....I forgive you attending a ladies only!<br /><br />The hyprocasy of the MSM on the BNP question leaves me really annoyed. You can't ban them - they are a legal political party, same as the SNP, Ukip, Cons, Lab & Libs. Debate with them! To try and 'smear' them reduces the three main parties to the same political gutter!<br /><br />One could almost 'give up'!Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.com