tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post2063061953233562607..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: A Unique Soundsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32821110411479565162010-11-23T23:07:06.804+00:002010-11-23T23:07:06.804+00:00I thought you would junican. Although I don't...I thought you would junican. Although I don't know where you are, can I suggest you try to go to a concert from these folk:<br /><br />http://www.aam.co.uk/<br /><br />The cellos are wonderful and it's definitely worth the effort to travel. Of course the programme has to be your taste, although I'm always open to slight conversion..:)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-65649460231212830642010-11-23T19:25:04.683+00:002010-11-23T19:25:04.683+00:00I liked that, Sabrosa.I liked that, Sabrosa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-74499175770735160422010-11-22T10:00:00.545+00:002010-11-22T10:00:00.545+00:00I rather liked it Derek, but then I do like the to...I rather liked it Derek, but then I do like the tone of a cello.<br /><br />Have never taken to rap. Would much rather listen to a base guitar's beat.<br /><br />It's good we're all different. Would be so tedious if we all preferred the same sounds.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-46390280923984140012010-11-22T08:19:58.539+00:002010-11-22T08:19:58.539+00:00Oooh! That polyphonic Cello playing grated on my n...Oooh! That polyphonic Cello playing grated on my nerves. Never seen such a bow before. Looks like it needs help.<br /><br />Rap seems to answer a basic frustration with its insistent beat and arm gestures. It's a small dose now and then thing, Eminem gets a story over too. I guess that comes from my love of folk music that tells stories of life and work. Jim Lloyd's Folk on Two was a must listen in the eighties.Derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03085466471703759531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-56779711827216777282010-11-21T21:45:32.491+00:002010-11-21T21:45:32.491+00:00Many thanks Derek. I have listened to your rap li...Many thanks Derek. I have listened to your rap link. Electronic music doesn't do a thing for me. Perhaps it's classical training I don't know.<br /><br />The other links are great.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-68419279444458323802010-11-21T21:43:11.465+00:002010-11-21T21:43:11.465+00:00Junican, this may interest you:
http://bit.ly/ds2...Junican, this may interest you:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/ds2oktsubrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-325487854685085862010-11-21T21:01:55.308+00:002010-11-21T21:01:55.308+00:00Cannot resist:
Pavarotti:
http://www.youtube.com/w...Cannot resist:<br />Pavarotti:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP1951ZxIE<br /><br />Jaroussky - stunning:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQX2XqAE8c&feature=related<br /><br />Rap? Yep, like this:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s&feature=artistob&playnext=1&list=TLdynYv6fwWvQ<br /><br />Are we not complex creatures?Derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03085466471703759531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-76315784400780012712010-11-21T20:45:39.691+00:002010-11-21T20:45:39.691+00:00Derek, delightful thank you. What a lovely Sunday...Derek, delightful thank you. What a lovely Sunday I've had listening to versions of old favourites.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-27189463314996534842010-11-21T20:44:51.407+00:002010-11-21T20:44:51.407+00:00Goodness me junican, I'd forgotten I'd bee...Goodness me junican, I'd forgotten I'd been surveyed. :) I've yet to meet a cellist who didn't match that.<br /><br />Beethoven is another favourite of mine. Perhaps it's because, as a child, the local schools orchestra conductor had a passion for his work and every public concert contained a piece of his work.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-85949458527291217702010-11-21T20:41:53.799+00:002010-11-21T20:41:53.799+00:00Aangirfan, I can always rely upon your excellent r...Aangirfan, I can always rely upon your excellent research skills. I'm off to read your links and improve my general knowledge. Thanks.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-34629537793629790712010-11-21T20:16:46.113+00:002010-11-21T20:16:46.113+00:00Thanks Rosa.
Another nice one, Barber again, this ...Thanks Rosa.<br />Another nice one, Barber again, this the sung version Agnus Dei by the Mormon Tabernacle choir. Impressive.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvT03pxhe58&feature=relatedDerekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03085466471703759531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-10551697464388909592010-11-21T19:36:05.513+00:002010-11-21T19:36:05.513+00:00So you are a former cellist, Subrosa - so am I.
...So you are a former cellist, Subrosa - so am I. <br /><br />So, according to this brand new survey from the University of Life, 100% of former cellists are smokers, drinkers, not obese and in good health and anti-despots.<br /><br />My favourites are Elgar's Enigma and anything by J S Bach (and rap).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-55279663088316190822010-11-21T18:45:39.892+00:002010-11-21T18:45:39.892+00:00Reportedly, John Calvin had Jewish origins (John C...Reportedly, John Calvin had Jewish origins (John Cohen) and was gay and a sadist.<br /><br />http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/10/jewish-plot-to-topple-king.html<br /><br />http://nona-people.blogspot.com/2007/12/classic-fundamentalist.html<br /><br />http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2006/06/john-calvin-orginally-cohen-then-cauin.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-39906427347524137662010-11-21T12:30:44.388+00:002010-11-21T12:30:44.388+00:00Here's the link to the Children in Need accoun...Here's the link to the Children in Need accounts Derek. The link is for Scotland but change it to where you want:<br />http://bbc.in/cQ5TfX<br /><br />As I get older I become more immune to scares but I can understand younger folk being concerned. Trying to find the truth can be very hard work, even for the most able.<br /><br />I too enjoy your choice of music and occasionally I play a little Mahler too. He suits my negative moods.<br /><br />Thanks so much for the link. I've put it on itunes.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-46996095505636473402010-11-21T09:11:16.249+00:002010-11-21T09:11:16.249+00:00I will have nothing to do with 'charities'...I will have nothing to do with 'charities' bar one - the Poppy Appeal. So far reported - £18m raised for Children in Need, but where are the accounts to show where and how it is used - and does any contributor ever seek them? For me, charity begins and ends at home - within the family. It is given when affordable with respect, which is returned. But I speak as one who has never had large amounts of disposable income.<br /><br />I do not find sadness nor depression in folk who worship the 'sky fairies'. Theirs is a choice, and provided it harms no other person, long may we have choices.<br /><br />Junican speaks of a 'Loss'. I can understand that. I feel the loss is that of a simpler life which connected with the elements and a basic way of life that involved no more fighting other than to get the washing in before a squall, or the fire lit.<br /><br />We are, as alluded to previously, bombarded with 'scares'. Their prime purpose is to keep us as a population under control, in fear, and clamouring for protection. Most are contrived from either deliberate mis-information or excess exaggeration, the ultimate disaster is usually draconian legislation of some sort. To be able to assess and 'see through' such scares takes persistence and no small amount of time. <br /><br />That 'time' when it meets a more basic way of life becomes the very thing we seem to have lost, time for reflection, and for those with the inclination, time for a reconnection with their God, or the 'sky fairies', or just some awesome scenery or piece of music that moves the emotions. Elgar's Nimrod, or Barber's Adagio for strings does it for me, my breath is caught in my throat at hearing the first notes and I long to be in some place such as is seen in the video heading Subrosa's article. Both pieces seem to generate a sense of grief, of enormous loss to the point of guilt.<br /><br />Samuel Barber:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQsgE0L450&feature=relatedDerekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03085466471703759531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-42391910898494576722010-11-21T03:06:03.659+00:002010-11-21T03:06:03.659+00:00Perhaps that's what I felt that day junican - ...Perhaps that's what I felt that day junican - rather than a feeling of slight depression, a sense of loss. These days we are continually in a state of fear rather than freedom and that may have something to do with it.<br /><br />I never watch Children in Need. It's a long story but you're right. Sentimental slop indeed and the use of the word 'children' makes it worse.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-40281764765449397492010-11-21T02:49:39.780+00:002010-11-21T02:49:39.780+00:00Ah but Richard, you gained something. When I was ...Ah but Richard, you gained something. When I was a cellist I enjoyed all music but there was something reverend about performing religious music. I gain too insofar as my spirit was always uplifted.<br /><br />Some composers can depress you beyond reason as you will know. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-89230446774709362082010-11-21T02:20:40.912+00:002010-11-21T02:20:40.912+00:00There was verse and response. It sounded to me lik...There was verse and response. It sounded to me like a very distorted plain chant. I also listened to one or two others.<br /><br />For some reason or other that I do not understand, after I had listened to them, and after I had stopped listening to them, a lump came into my throat and a tear into my eye. <br /><br />I can't help but feel that there is some LOSS involved. Perhaps the loss of innocence and simplicity. Perhaps what we have lost is 'certainty', in the sense that the world, even in our immediate vicinity, in these days, is constantly in turmoil. <br /><br />It really is odd, is it not, that the media constantly tell us about tragedies in far away places that we can do nothing about. When they are not telling us about such tragedies, they are telling us about tragedies closer to home and blaming the Government. And then we have all the drinking and smoking and obesity tragedies. <br /><br /><br />Those songs (psalms) reminded me of simpler times, and I cannot believe that it is beyond our powers to go back there. By that I mean that we can still be made aware or these tragedies, but not in terms of sentimental bullshit. Our government can send aid - the gov represent us all. There is no need for individuals to make personal contributions to this aid. That is the falsity of the current 'Children in Need' thing on the TV. It is sentimental slop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-86394351580282182112010-11-21T01:52:32.403+00:002010-11-21T01:52:32.403+00:00I've sung in choirs for many years, and of cou...I've sung in choirs for many years, and of course it has been mainly religious music. There aren't many 'big' works that aren't. Even though I am not a believer, I enjoyed and was uplifted by it all. Rehearsing and then performing Brahms' <i>Ein Deutsches Requiem</i> during the final months of my father's illness nearly converted me, but not quite.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-43008214126950713492010-11-21T01:36:40.260+00:002010-11-21T01:36:40.260+00:00You've said it Richard. 'Whether you belie...You've said it Richard. 'Whether you believe is almost an irrelevance'.<br /><br />I've lost count of the number of exceptional religious music concerts I've attended over the years. The musicians seem to gain something from it too.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-18797268188913054062010-11-21T01:19:45.566+00:002010-11-21T01:19:45.566+00:00If anything is going to persuade me to religion, i...If anything is going to persuade me to religion, it'll be the music. A thousand years of the greatest sounds ever made. Whether you believe is almost an irrelevance. It's made by people, and that's enough for me.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-33580782981166083362010-11-21T01:15:30.145+00:002010-11-21T01:15:30.145+00:00Don't be depressed RM. It's their choice....Don't be depressed RM. It's their choice.<br /><br />You're right about religious music though. Much of it is beautiful and the creators were obviously moved by their beliefs.<br /><br />In the Hebrides church going is a large part of the culture. In some ways I admire them for holding onto their traditions so long. So often they've been washed away without much thought. The grass isn't always greener as we know.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-55581347998929992232010-11-21T01:02:47.850+00:002010-11-21T01:02:47.850+00:00I agree that religion has lovely music SR. I strug...I agree that religion has lovely music SR. I struggled to clear my eyes at my dad's funeral. Such sad music. He would have had a good laugh aswell. If he wasn't in his box.<br />But the thought of people spending their incredibly short lives singing nonsense in a freezing church in the middle of nowheresville is so sad that I feel depressed.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-84807125959372117592010-11-21T00:41:07.900+00:002010-11-21T00:41:07.900+00:00I should think many would disagree with you RM bec...I should think many would disagree with you RM because human nature, being what it is, needs faith in all forms.<br /><br />As many have said in recent years Climate Change has become the new religion.<br /><br />Which is worse? I prefer the one with the music. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-57654192639921559322010-11-21T00:34:01.760+00:002010-11-21T00:34:01.760+00:00I always find it incredibly sad when grown people ...I always find it incredibly sad when grown people worship sky fairies.<br />Their howling sounds are lovely to listen to but are spoilt by knowing that the singers believe in afterlifes and Noahs Ark and potions and spells.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.com