tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post1693052379045627724..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: The Video In Fullsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-77176399547080194312010-11-01T10:06:13.136+00:002010-11-01T10:06:13.136+00:00I have requested that my posts from last night be ...I have requested that my posts from last night be deleted.<br /><br />Thanks to Rosie for letting me escape :O)<br /><br />AlexAlex Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577153712026023661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-82420788771163780012010-11-01T01:58:17.577+00:002010-11-01T01:58:17.577+00:00Long gone are the days when I smoked in the house ...Long gone are the days when I smoked in the house Joe or at the computer. But if I had been having a puff I wouldn't have choked reading your comment. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-11925730501706983672010-11-01T01:47:43.481+00:002010-11-01T01:47:43.481+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Alex Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577153712026023661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-16662722271917289762010-11-01T00:29:48.897+00:002010-11-01T00:29:48.897+00:00There's a nice little flame-war going on SR, I...There's a nice little flame-war going on SR, I hope it won't contribute to Global Warming.<br /><br />Personally, I've no objections to smokers, it's just them exhaling that I don't like.Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829909061904690380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-43445650412373318582010-11-01T00:24:44.360+00:002010-11-01T00:24:44.360+00:00Gentlemen, please agree to disagree without upsett...Gentlemen, please agree to disagree without upsetting each other.<br /><br />Not that I'm trying to substantiate smoking Alex because I won't, but I've just remembered my asthmatic friend is far more troubled by certain air conditioning than smoking. She's also mentioned since planes stopped smokers, her breathing isn't so good when flying. She discovered the air isn't cleaned with fresh air nowadays and it's only cabin stale air recirculated during flights.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-82255557432184431122010-11-01T00:13:16.835+00:002010-11-01T00:13:16.835+00:00I certainly agree with your analysis timbone and I...I certainly agree with your analysis timbone and I too would have voted for a ban in these situations.<br /><br />Personally, as a smoker myself, I still don't understand why they didn't ban smoking outright. Then as many say 'follow the money'.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-62405777099691036582010-11-01T00:10:00.650+00:002010-11-01T00:10:00.650+00:00WfW, last time I was in Spain a few years ago bar ...WfW, last time I was in Spain a few years ago bar owners were able to choose whether to be a smoking place or not.<br /><br />Auch WfW, Alex's lovely, he's just bothered by smoke. There are plenty other smells which are more troublesome to many asthmatics but they can't affect him.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-40112427692341921762010-11-01T00:07:27.684+00:002010-11-01T00:07:27.684+00:00The bars I frequent in Spain Alex have separate ar...The bars I frequent in Spain Alex have separate areas for smokers but perhaps the ones round your way don't.<br /><br />I've every sympathy with asthmatics and the one friend knows those of us will smoke away from her.<br /><br />My clothes stink after walking round Dundee for a couple of hours but I don't complain that it's violence.<br /><br />Surely you can have a word with the bar owner and suggest he may have a part of the bar which is smoke free or at least well ventilated.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-58805975519923251772010-11-01T00:05:06.796+00:002010-11-01T00:05:06.796+00:00"No, just got bigger fish to fry.." C..."No, just got bigger fish to fry.." C'mon Alex, I am just a little itch on your back you can't scratch and get rid of!<br /><br />"If a public space is for everyone then you don't do something which prevents EVERYONE from enjoying it."<br /><br />In which case you don't do something which prevents anyone from enjoying it - no? Equality & Choice - remember them?<br /><br />"To enjoy a public space basic human exploits rank far higher than the taking of drugs which affect others' breathing. EVERYONE has to breath fresh air but no-one has to smoke"<br /><br />And the percentage of smoke in a public space, lets say an open-air park, is what? And exactly how much is detectable? And of that that is detectable, it causes how much harm? And do please quote the scientific study which shows that second-hand smoke is hamful. To save you time and effort - there isn't one! Likewise, show me the autopsy procedure that proves that second-hand smoke was the cause of death - again there isn't one!<br /><br />"As a human being people smoking denies me intrinsic freedoms." And those like you who deny smokers the same 'intrinsic values'? And the difference is??<br /><br />"I am very against government telling people what to do but those of you on the side of the smokers in this debate are not being the libertarians you think you are because the most important freedoms are being compromised by you. This is just selfishness dressed up as freedom."<br /><br />And you are not compromising the same important freedoms, ie the freedom of choice? Is that not just selfishness dressed up as freedom, on your part - of not having to suffer smoke? You have the choice and ability to 'move away' - so why don't you?<br /><br />And lastly, when have I insulted you? All I have done is respond to your uneducated, ill-informed, unfounded and spurious arguments.<br /><br />Quote some verifiable facts Alex - or Foxtrot Oscar!Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-20134033507022034672010-11-01T00:03:06.875+00:002010-11-01T00:03:06.875+00:00Yes RA, there has been talk about a gene which mak...Yes RA, there has been talk about a gene which makes some more prone to forms of addiction. I've followed it with interest recently.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-40188342835866905232010-10-31T23:12:09.463+00:002010-10-31T23:12:09.463+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Alex Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577153712026023661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-67772374965671070342010-10-31T22:45:32.941+00:002010-10-31T22:45:32.941+00:00Hello Alex, lost your voice, or got a problem with...Hello Alex, lost your voice, or got a problem with your internet connection?Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-65762939660809901492010-10-31T22:42:49.355+00:002010-10-31T22:42:49.355+00:00@Alex Porter you said "Nice try by Mr Davies ...@Alex Porter you said "Nice try by Mr Davies but for me, it doesn't wash!"<br /><br />You missed the point completely. If in 2006 parliament had been voting on banning smoking in public places because non smokers don't like the smell on their clothes and in their hair, some find that it irritates their throat and eyes, and some cannot even be in a smoky atmosphere because of a respiratory condition, that is a different matter.<br /><br />They did not however. The vote was based on bad science. I am not in a position to give true statistics, but what I do know is this. If, and it is a BIG if, one non smoker in a million people got lung cancer every generation because they had been surrounded by tobacco smoke 24/7, that would be about 60 people every 40 years. The anti smoking lobby said it was 66000 a year.<br /><br />OK, maybe the fairy tales varied, and the figure I gave was one of the more ridiculous. I am however incensed that the Health Act was based on pure garbage, a quarter of the population had their social and everyday lives, in many cases their working lives, totally ruined by bad science. A law based on lies and fabrication.timbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985165416240833253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-64473595451722310902010-10-31T21:40:16.842+00:002010-10-31T21:40:16.842+00:00Oh and Alex, I speak as an Asthmatic - now cured!Oh and Alex, I speak as an Asthmatic - now cured!Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-64331693814800450972010-10-31T21:37:49.206+00:002010-10-31T21:37:49.206+00:00Alex, Oh dear.......
If public spaces are the pre...Alex, Oh dear.......<br /><br />If public spaces are the preserve of everyone then surely everyone has the right to use them as they wish?<br /><br />So your non-addiction means that I have to limit my civil and human rights?<br /><br />"Should those who don't desire public nudity have to go to bars which specifically forbid it?" They don't, cos they have the choice not to! Exactly the same choice you have not to go into establishments that permit smoking!<br /><br />I know it's annoying for non-smokers and I'm sorry about that but you simply should NOT be allowed to interfere with my ability to live and smoke - end of story!<br /><br />No, Alex, YOUR argument is total fallacy - now be a good chap, either come back with a logical argument, or Foxtrot Oscar - or are you training to be a Lib/Lab/Con politician? In which case the same suggestion applies!Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-30982250505856521572010-10-31T21:13:41.085+00:002010-10-31T21:13:41.085+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Alex Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577153712026023661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-47520851871068549672010-10-31T20:51:12.678+00:002010-10-31T20:51:12.678+00:00So Alex, go find yourself a bar where the owner ha...So Alex, go find yourself a bar where the owner has the right to limit his clientel to non-smokers"<br /><br />Oops forgot, at least over here, the poor bloody bar owner doesn't have any right of choice! Something you wish to remove from those who choose to smoke!<br /><br />So you appear to have friends that smoke? Oh dear, so you believe they have no choice whether to smoke or not?<br /><br />Or is it none of your friends smoke? In which case you believe you have the right to stop the enjoyment of those who do?<br /><br />So it is difficult for you to find a bar that does not bar smoking? Now, what does that tell you?<br /><br />Alex, I suggest you 're-value' your values - or go find another planet! Aka, in plain English: Piss Off!<br /><br />(Apologies SR, for the language, but this dipstick has really wound me up!)Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-20796466404905378102010-10-31T20:39:58.149+00:002010-10-31T20:39:58.149+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Alex Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577153712026023661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-74610234821429880172010-10-31T20:06:34.585+00:002010-10-31T20:06:34.585+00:00Scientists involved in the GNome project have iden...Scientists involved in the GNome project have identified a quirk in the genetic makeup which can make people susceptible to alcoholism.<br /><br />Obviously William suffers from a far more common quirk that as yet the scientists have not been able to identify and isolate.Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230294511455500220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-71196917495238310552010-10-31T16:13:01.565+00:002010-10-31T16:13:01.565+00:00My pleasure Indyan.My pleasure Indyan.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-11440537016829276222010-10-31T16:12:31.317+00:002010-10-31T16:12:31.317+00:00Clams, there is that possibility indeed.Clams, there is that possibility indeed.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-29217259749962760152010-10-31T16:11:59.288+00:002010-10-31T16:11:59.288+00:00Ah but Indyan, the Righteous wlll tell you they ca...Ah but Indyan, the Righteous wlll tell you they can do nothing about such pollution. It's needed for our survival don't you know.<br /><br />Out of sight, out of mind - you're right, that's their mentality. You can't blame them because they believe the drivel pumped into the media. Not that I would call them trusting of the media, just people who are unable to evaluate and think for themselves. That's what our education system is best at these days - creating fear instead of the excitement and challenges in life.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-54350597242233896522010-10-31T15:56:56.166+00:002010-10-31T15:56:56.166+00:00slapped it on my site with a kink back Rosie , Tha...slapped it on my site with a kink back Rosie , Thanks!Indyanhathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07974285525646225459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-63576837345146375542010-10-31T15:21:36.368+00:002010-10-31T15:21:36.368+00:00Yay. Go Prof! Go viral!Yay. Go Prof! Go viral!Clams Linguinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11807501901940290213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-76301411322983927482010-10-31T13:50:00.256+00:002010-10-31T13:50:00.256+00:00Try this ,and then think about it William
http://w...Try this ,and then think about it William<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lquok4PdkIndyanhathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07974285525646225459noreply@blogger.com