tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post9114239809422272949..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: It's Too Easy To Forgetsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-44131788792927333822012-03-09T00:32:27.251+00:002012-03-09T00:32:27.251+00:00I have no answer TT, because as you know, I think ...I have no answer TT, because as you know, I think this war is completely unjustified from a security point of view.<br /><br />We leave our borders wide open yet fight in a desolate land?<br /><br />Politicians have few morals or scruples. Power is their only value.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-86506230144324137042012-03-09T00:29:16.482+00:002012-03-09T00:29:16.482+00:00Oh Karzai will be looked after no matter what RM. ...Oh Karzai will be looked after no matter what RM. And his henchmen.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-27232406542180343202012-03-09T00:27:11.598+00:002012-03-09T00:27:11.598+00:00Now I know about it Aangirfan I will. Some researc...Now I know about it Aangirfan I will. Some research is needed but hopefully I'll get around to it next week.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-62604493140856330372012-03-09T00:24:29.063+00:002012-03-09T00:24:29.063+00:00JRB the answer is money. Aangirfan explains it mor...JRB the answer is money. Aangirfan explains it more fully.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-90530277704091771542012-03-08T17:45:25.513+00:002012-03-08T17:45:25.513+00:00The UK military is in Afghanistan to promote the t...The UK military is in Afghanistan to promote the trade in heroin and the trade in armaments, among other things. Afghanistan was relatively prosperous and peaceful (girls in miniskirts) before the CIA decided to put the Mujahideen into power. And, as Robin Cook said, al Qaeda is the CIA. Hope you do a blog on Operation Gladio, showing the links between the military and the 'terrorists'.<br /><br />- AangirfanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-44281830651873817202012-03-08T09:27:32.170+00:002012-03-08T09:27:32.170+00:00A sad, sad loss of young lives. My heart goes ou...A sad, sad loss of young lives. My heart goes out to their families.<br /><br />But can anyone in a position of authority <b>honestly</b> answer me, without bias, spin or well worn platitudes, just one question …<br /><br />Why?JRBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864418763227369458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-23671025804087966642012-03-08T08:59:00.618+00:002012-03-08T08:59:00.618+00:006 soldiers dead. Gone. Lost. Never to return. Okay...6 soldiers dead. Gone. Lost. Never to return. Okay they signed up and they take the money and there's a bit of machoism thrown in too, but killed? Defending what exactly? For whose benefit?<br /><br />The IRA brought the fight to the streets of the UK.In Northern Ireland they killed fairly spectacularly. Not a lot changed until they changed their tactics and started going after the financial targets. Suddenly the government sits up and takes note.<br /><br />Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc. are the responsibility of the Arab nations to sort out or leave alone as they see fit. The UN is a waste of space.<br /><br />Why would Call me Dave want to send British troops to these terrible places? Why would he want to spend ridiculous amounts of money we don't have on wars? How can he sleep at night?<br /><br />Tackle extremism in the UK first. If the powers that be put half as much effort into sorting out extremism here as they do with religious bigotry, sexual orientation, political correct and green issues it wouldn't be a problem.<br /><br />In the meantime real people are losing their lives or are being mutilated for causes which are at best doubtful.<br /><br />How does Call me Dave sleep at night with that responsibility?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-43469544922257965562012-03-08T00:54:47.576+00:002012-03-08T00:54:47.576+00:00Desperately sad news. How many more will die or be...Desperately sad news. How many more will die or be injured ( on both sides) before we withdraw in 2014 ?<br />Karzai will stay in power as long as we're there to protect him. Then he'll be off to Dubai or wherever with his billions and it will be back to business as usual.<br />200 years of history repeating itself tends to indicate that someone else will try their luck and invade them again though.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-51184666702129520082012-03-07T22:11:08.434+00:002012-03-07T22:11:08.434+00:00Good point dognamedblue. Britain is responsible to...Good point dognamedblue. Britain is responsible to having fingers in many pies.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-69455093336120194952012-03-07T22:10:10.456+00:002012-03-07T22:10:10.456+00:00Exactly Michele. We've lost control of our own...Exactly Michele. We've lost control of our own culture because we've allowed the lefties to take over.<br /><br />If we're fighting militant Islam over there, then why are there so many militant Islamists in the UK? Our security forces hands are tied and therefore they do as instructed - treat them with kid gloves.<br /><br />The fight is on the doorstep yet our politicians side-step it.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-58510520938597984482012-03-07T22:06:24.042+00:002012-03-07T22:06:24.042+00:00Aye dognamedblue, you're thinking along the li...Aye dognamedblue, you're thinking along the lines of Ranty above. Something for me to research further.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-59337665088530969322012-03-07T22:04:13.948+00:002012-03-07T22:04:13.948+00:00Ranty, it's strange that you're the second...Ranty, it's strange that you're the second person to mention the poppy fields and US soldiers to me in the past couple of weeks.<br /><br />You may very well be right. The war ON drugs was never a runner. All we do is feed addicts more addictive drugs.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-52631642840124157972012-03-07T21:13:13.352+00:002012-03-07T21:13:13.352+00:00the only "terrorism" is created by our o...the only "terrorism" is created by our own secret services, as history proves... just who created these afghan terrorist to fight the russians in the first place??? we reap what we sow [another example? green was the secret service operative who ran both sides in ireland in the british military red hand? red army faction? black september? spk? baader meinhof? gladio? tonkin? pearl harbour? lucittania? the list goes on & on & on & onI'm surprised people are still so gullable]dognamedbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05123316205972254808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-73096239130109545152012-03-07T20:52:44.410+00:002012-03-07T20:52:44.410+00:00Seeing as you think it is OK for them to be resolu...Seeing as you think it is OK for them to be resolute to the point of murder to defend their culture ...... what about ours? No? Thought that might be the case; it would be called racism, and we would be lectured on multiculturalism or something. <br /><br />Trouble with that kind of argument is that it does not work in reverse.<br /><br />When faced with global terrorism, we either fight it on their ground or on ours; soldiers are better able to defend themselves than civilians.<br /><br />I sometimes think the only thing that would wake civilians up is to have the fight land on their doorsteps; trouble is you would then have to do something about it yourselves, and judging from past experience that would be just to blame the military for not doing exactly what they are doing here. <br /><br />The fight I'm afraid looks very different when you are face to face with the enemy and have no way to defend yourself; and militant Islam has a global agenda.<br /><br />I speak as an ex WO2 in the ADFMichelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09117510718604467580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-89316005894381717652012-03-07T20:49:38.713+00:002012-03-07T20:49:38.713+00:00we've been protecting our asset, specifically ...we've been protecting our asset, specifically helmand province the heroin growing region in afghanistan, since before the opium wars with china & tv is just to program the population into accepting illegal & immoral wars of aggression through guilt because a tiny percentage of the population is being murdered by policy makers we didn't even vote for... & don't mention lockerbie the cia & their heroin route from syria [gadaffi now doesn't look so bad eh?]dognamedbluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05123316205972254808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36215922179380637832012-03-07T20:02:40.778+00:002012-03-07T20:02:40.778+00:00Rosie,
I don't think we are there to bring &q...Rosie,<br /><br />I don't think we are there to bring "democracy" to the Afghans. As you say, these people neither need it or want it. In most Arab nations (I speak from personal experience) it is the strongest (tribe) that conquers. They rule for as long as they can dominate the others.<br /><br />Watch for news-clips of American soldiers walking through the poppy fields. Watch how carefully they tread. They are very cautious and never damage a single plant.<br /><br />War On Drugs?<br /><br />I am now convinced it should be renamed the War For Drugs. <br /><br />Before anyone leaps in to say "Hearts and minds, mate. They are doing that because if they destroyed all the poppy fields it would just create more enemies" I am not having it.<br /><br />Something nasty is unfolding live on TV, and we do what we do best: we just sit there and watch it.<br /><br />CR.Captain Rantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07839241144954596066noreply@blogger.com