tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post8742623679037248194..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Common Purpose #2subrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-50123882436888465102013-02-24T02:34:59.598+00:002013-02-24T02:34:59.598+00:00I hope Hamish sees that Sheila. Many thanks.I hope Hamish sees that Sheila. Many thanks.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-87093050775859154752013-02-23T08:41:12.374+00:002013-02-23T08:41:12.374+00:00Scotland is be riddled with Common Purpose but for...Scotland is be riddled with Common Purpose but for an illustration of how they operate,look at how they are working to remould Libya: <br /><br />http://www.libyaherald.com/2012/10/23/a-common-purpose-for-libya/<br /><br /> Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979034123783374628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-67542616998179573792013-02-23T02:33:21.922+00:002013-02-23T02:33:21.922+00:00There's lots about Common Purpose on the inter...There's lots about Common Purpose on the internet Hamish. The taxpayers pay for the training too, yet only the 'chosen' are permitted to attend their training sessions.<br /><br />I've witnessed someone who undertook CP training and it changed them from a genuinely sensible individual to an arrogant, self-righteous, devious person.<br /><br />In a nutshell it's about grooming the few to be the leaders of the rest of us.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36292856889017895582013-02-23T02:29:01.018+00:002013-02-23T02:29:01.018+00:00I don't know what evidence Clarinda, but I sus...I don't know what evidence Clarinda, but I suspect it's hypothetical propaganda.<br /><br />Do hope that the Courier keeps on this subject and more parents protest.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-14272037698967565402013-02-23T02:26:07.061+00:002013-02-23T02:26:07.061+00:00Sheila, I've removed your duplicate post.Sheila, I've removed your duplicate post.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-89803622618871177862013-02-23T02:25:18.954+00:002013-02-23T02:25:18.954+00:00Sheila, excellent contributions to the subject. Th...Sheila, excellent contributions to the subject. Thanks.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-92131355236469869342013-02-23T02:23:48.064+00:002013-02-23T02:23:48.064+00:00Joe, my answers are 'don't know' to bo...Joe, my answers are 'don't know' to both your questions.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-33599148894386868572013-02-23T02:23:00.393+00:002013-02-23T02:23:00.393+00:00Thanks JRB. Unfortunately I can't find the qu...Thanks JRB. Unfortunately I can't find the questionnaire for when these people visit the homes where there are children from 0 - 8. How mothers are persuaded to comply with their request for information beats me.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32574787150318350372013-02-23T02:21:14.185+00:002013-02-23T02:21:14.185+00:00'bumbling' but devious TT.'bumbling' but devious TT.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-29933706403874618602013-02-22T21:54:39.023+00:002013-02-22T21:54:39.023+00:00Hamish common purpose have a web presence this is ...Hamish common purpose have a web presence this is the UK site<br />http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/about/what-do-we-do<br />Hope that helps Elainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06254354965300832792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-66043103195223632332013-02-22T21:20:03.997+00:002013-02-22T21:20:03.997+00:00SR I broadly agree with your views on this matter,...SR I broadly agree with your views on this matter, but take issue with the following:<br />"Common Purpose trained individuals have their common sense removed while they're brainwashed".<br />That sounds like conspirachy theory. What is this Common Purpose? Is it a religious cult? A political movement?<br />Genuine question. Perhaps someone can direct me to an objective source of information about it.Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-35397315281722628922013-02-22T19:36:01.282+00:002013-02-22T19:36:01.282+00:00What evidence of previous beneficial research did ...What evidence of previous beneficial research did The Social Research Unit,Dartington,Devon which is leading this survey, demonstrate to the P&K council that compelled the procurement of such an expensive exercise? I'm sure, judging by the Unit's self-promotion to extol their initiative in being the first to capture funding and access to P&K children, that their academic kudos in plenty of 'new' research data and publications may out-weigh any advantage to P&K children - unless good old P&K Council have squirrelled away specific funds to make right any child welfare deficits and concerns potentially exposed by this research - if the children answer honestly of course. But, I suppose, lessons will be learned?Clarindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08189996558442989039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32468996145870058262013-02-22T17:18:45.769+00:002013-02-22T17:18:45.769+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979034123783374628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-6925741097143468082013-02-22T17:18:45.199+00:002013-02-22T17:18:45.199+00:00"I don't think I but into the "bumbl..."I don't think I but into the "bumbling idiots" meme. It may be that "bumbling idiots carry out what they are told to do but those with the real power know exactly what they are doing. <br /><br />The real people in positions of power are bright, clever, devious etc. They know what they are doing. They have analysed it thoroughly, considered all the options and then made it happen through their "bumbling idiots". The end result may, at times be a shambles, or upset loads of people or be unworkable but they will have achieved their ends mostly and they aren't on the radar. The "bumbling" get their rewards."<br /><br /><br /><br />This has certainly been my experience of watching all this unfold over the years - here in Scotland and across the world.<br /><br />Most professionals only see their part in this from their own blinkered viewpoint and this is how it is deliberately presented to them. They only see their one piece of the jigsaw.<br /><br />We are entering a brave new global system of global governance which cannot function without vast amounts of interoperable data on everything and everybody.<br /><br />Interesting spin here: http://www.publicservice.co.uk/news_story.asp?id=22205<br /><br />Of course there are greedy rent-seeking parasites desperate to make money out of all this but the real aim is control.<br /><br />Measuring "wellbeing" at individual, community, national and global level is a big part of this.<br /><br />Sounds lovely - Measuring what Matters - sweet!! - until you see examples like these questionnaires.<br /><br />Measuring wellbeing,in this brave new "expertly" run world, involves measuring everything about everything and everybody (including "sustainability") at individual,household, community, national and global level.<br /><br />And then suitable "interventions" are prescribed (at whatever level) and progress towards our re-determined outcomes is evaluated.<br /><br />The vast amount of highly personal data used to target "services" at individuals, also feeds the bigger system.<br /><br />http://www.france24.com/en/20090914-stiglitz-report-calls-measure-well-being-alongside-growth-Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979034123783374628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-35609496207626699032013-02-22T14:13:07.384+00:002013-02-22T14:13:07.384+00:001. May teachers with a conscience refuse to involv...1. May teachers with a conscience refuse to involve 'their' class, or, will their prospects of promotion be detrimentally affected?<br /><br />2. How does a survey enquiring about the sexual habits of 14+ year olds differ from paedophilia grooming?Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829909061904690380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-12939373601398993072013-02-22T12:50:20.870+00:002013-02-22T12:50:20.870+00:00Yesterday I said I was not against education autho...Yesterday I said I was not against education authorities and health boards wishing to gain a better understanding …<br /><br />However, Perth & Kinloss and NHS Tayside have proven themselves to be a dangerous exception to my generic acceptance of what is reasonable enquiry.<br /><br />Your link to the actual questionnaires made for horrifying reading.<br /><br />It is self evident that this ‘Evidence2Success’ survey goes way beyond gaining any acceptable basic ‘understanding’ and instead intrusively pries into areas of a child’s health and social circumstances for which it has neither need of such information nor the authority to ask.<br /><br />The very ethics of this survey must be questioned.<br /><br />I applaud your efforts to bring this disgrace to the attention of all parents of school age children.JRBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864418763227369458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-5769616874267025422013-02-22T11:20:45.948+00:002013-02-22T11:20:45.948+00:00I don't think I but into the "bumbling id...I don't think I but into the "bumbling idiots" meme. It may be that "bumbling idiots carry out what they are told to do but those with the real power know exactly what they are doing. <br /><br />The real people in positions of power are bright, clever, devious etc. They know what they are doing. They have analysed it thoroughly, considered all the options and then made it happen through their "bumbling idiots". The end result may, at times be a shambles, or upset loads of people or be unworkable but they will have achieved their ends mostly and they aren't on the radar. The "bumbling" get their rewards.<br /><br />This current vogue for governments, councils or any sort of statist organisation to rush into "first in the world, country etc. boasting just shows how stupid they are. Early adopters always pay a heavy price for rushing in. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-4598138242074772852013-02-22T09:53:56.196+00:002013-02-22T09:53:56.196+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829909061904690380noreply@blogger.com