tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post8694597456418444939..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Where Was Robbie Burns?subrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-72060827334971112102012-08-02T05:10:55.399+01:002012-08-02T05:10:55.399+01:00Very true Brian, there was a lack of English contr...Very true Brian, there was a lack of English contributions, but my point was that 99% of it was English-based.<br /><br />For me, visually, it was totally overloaded with activity and I had no time for my senses to concentrate upon anything.<br /><br />Let's hope lessons have been learned for the Commonwealth Games.<br /><br />That's an idea. If you could email me some links I'd be delighted.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-9891200337791655162012-08-01T14:24:22.686+01:002012-08-01T14:24:22.686+01:00Rosie,
Actually, from an English point of view th...Rosie,<br /><br />Actually, from an English point of view there was a distinct lack of English contributions as well: no Trevithick, Stephenson, Arkwright, Wedgewood, Boulton, Whittle etc, etc... Besides, most things have been invented at least twice - imagine the Yanks boycotting the Games if Danny Boyle had claimed Joesph Swan had invented the lightbulb and not Edison!<br />The whole thing was an audiovisual froth that would appeal to the widest (and by definition, shallowest) possible audience. it was a tone poem for the eyes and ears that oughtn't be analysed to audit the exact proportions of artists, scientists, Welsh and Northern Irish contributions to the event. If one starts doing that then one soon finds onself in the same gutter as the people who claim there weren't any blacks around in the industrial revolution, so why were they in the pageant in stovepipe hats?<br />I look forward to seeing the 2014 Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony and trust it will provide a positive, inclusive view of Scottishness and the Scottish diaspora who ran the Empire instead of having a song celebrating a battle seven hundred years ago and not trying to make peace - why not Scotland the Brave instead?<br />Perhaps you could post about the separateness of the Scottish and Eglish and Welsh NHS since inception, ie the 1936 Cathcart Report and the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1947.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358349301959327747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-67386435143363391572012-07-31T23:57:53.139+01:002012-07-31T23:57:53.139+01:00I consider myself a nationalist Barbarian but I th...I consider myself a nationalist Barbarian but I think I understand what you mean.<br /><br />Entirely agree with your last paragraph. I'd be disgusted. What is needed is total concentration on the athletes. Oh and they should behave in a manner fitting to their position and not as if they're on a Friday night out in town.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-71198666871468952892012-07-31T23:54:24.998+01:002012-07-31T23:54:24.998+01:00Hmm Allan, I saw little credit given to Scottish c...Hmm Allan, I saw little credit given to Scottish contributions towards Anglocentricity. No mention of the oil money either. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-25695592979788477502012-07-31T23:52:13.235+01:002012-07-31T23:52:13.235+01:00Demetrius, John Logie Baird - although given no cr...Demetrius, John Logie Baird - although given no credit - relayed the first TV pictures.<br /><br />Of course many watched the pantomime on other items.<br /><br />You're right of course - as usual.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-90546612453349132262012-07-31T23:50:35.231+01:002012-07-31T23:50:35.231+01:00Keep praying JRB, keep praying, but don't wear...Keep praying JRB, keep praying, but don't wear your hands down to the bone by wringing them. It'll happen regardless of our wishes.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-82496728995432920222012-07-31T23:49:36.764+01:002012-07-31T23:49:36.764+01:00Annie Laurie would have been better Hamish. :)
Ji...Annie Laurie would have been better Hamish. :)<br /><br />Jings, I do hope in 2014 we don't have this palavar of an 'opening ceremony'. All we need is for some bairn who does well at sport to stand up and say the Games are open. Nae fireworks. Think of AWG. Strangely none of the AWG bunch has complained about them...subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-79723074551622333462012-07-31T23:47:25.326+01:002012-07-31T23:47:25.326+01:00I hope you support English independence in time to...I hope you support English independence in time too OR. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-17721759641071004592012-07-31T22:43:19.783+01:002012-07-31T22:43:19.783+01:00God help us in 2014. You can guarantee Salmond wil...God help us in 2014. You can guarantee Salmond will ensure it is turned into a full blooded political statement. The cybernats - sorry, ardent nationalists - will be creaming themselves.<br /><br />Sport should never be politicised, but unfortunately it is.<br /><br />If the Commonwealth Games in 2014 are turned into some sort of advert for Scottish independence, then that will be a disgrace. But no doubt Ms McAlpine is already sharpening her pencils in anticipation.Barbarian of the Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09546237341963301419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-3706012250789985192012-07-31T19:01:52.387+01:002012-07-31T19:01:52.387+01:00Subrosa
Sorry, but overall I thought it was Briti...Subrosa<br /><br />Sorry, but overall I thought it was British, and pulled of the surprising (but welcolme) trick of never falling into Anglocentricity. A lot of the ceremony was about shared experiences rather than picking a thing that is explicitly Scottish, English, etc. I suppose Bell, Flemming and Baird's exclusion was rough, but NBC would probably have cut it from their coverage anyway (like they did with the Emile Sande section).<br /><br />Hamish<br /><br />Abide With Me was sung at the part that was about remembering those who are no longer here, specifically those who lost their lives on 7 July 2005, how exactly does "A Mans A Man..." fit into that theme exactly? (and yes, i am rather bemused at a funeral song being the official hymn of Wembley sung at FA Cup Finals & RL Challenge Cup Finals)Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13574173214924437278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-38711203755254982982012-07-31T12:10:58.272+01:002012-07-31T12:10:58.272+01:00JRB...
Come on this is Scotland. The BBC might men...JRB...<br />Come on this is Scotland. The BBC might mention the Glasgow Games at the end of the news as ...'and finally'.<br />I quite enjoyed the Olympics opening ceremony although I don't think it strenghened the case for the Union ( as said by wee doogie alexnder etc).<br />It was more of a nostalgic look at how great we had been. But it's all gone now. Owned by foreigners and run from Brussels.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-15901190418204986822012-07-31T12:10:34.537+01:002012-07-31T12:10:34.537+01:00What pray, about John Logie Baird, without whom no...What pray, about John Logie Baird, without whom nobody would have been watching anything? Well, perhaps. We did not watch, it went on too late and Classic FM had a decent programme. As I have never watched any Olympic opening ceremony this was not unusual. Possibly, Robbie Burns was well out of it, somehow linking him to Mr. Bean and parachuted corgi's would do him no favours.Demetriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198549581667363991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-18883267201005595132012-07-31T11:46:05.533+01:002012-07-31T11:46:05.533+01:00Oh God ..... do you mean there will be more over-h...Oh God ..... do you mean there will be more over-hyped; over-commercialised; over-exposed; over-reported; over-televised; over-the-top sport ..... in two years time ..... and worse ..... in Scotland .....Oh God.JRBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864418763227369458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-31553489727309032852012-07-31T11:28:35.463+01:002012-07-31T11:28:35.463+01:00I think "A man's a man .." would hav...I think "A man's a man .." would have been a more approrpiate choice than " Abide with me".<br />However I hope Glasgow Twenty Fourteen will go for a minimalist approach. Just introduce the teams and welcome the visitors and get on with the games.<br />And if Alex Salmond has to parachute into the arena, let's refuse to pay for a stunt double.Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-57370777562104344682012-07-31T11:09:05.283+01:002012-07-31T11:09:05.283+01:00I'm slowly coming round to Scottish independen...I'm slowly coming round to Scottish independence, Subrosa. However the "show" wasn't even English. First and foremost it was "multi-cultural" with many coloured folk gaily immersed in feudal garb and ways. If that was merrye olde England, I missed something in my history lessons!<br /><br />We're all European now and Scotland will, indeed is already, UKM!<br /><br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Regions_of_EuropeOldrightiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192587284458430556noreply@blogger.com