tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post8495544561028034710..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: MoD Accused of Ordering a "Truth Blackout" During Election Campaignsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-25816492631021790622010-03-10T01:26:28.790+00:002010-03-10T01:26:28.790+00:00Muddypaws, I've sighted the memos and know the...Muddypaws, I've sighted the memos and know they're genuine.<br /><br />I would certainly have no complaint about your suggestion regarding politicians though.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-35392101919008239732010-03-10T01:24:35.192+00:002010-03-10T01:24:35.192+00:00Tris that would be great. Thanks a lot.Tris that would be great. Thanks a lot.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-77790283059166860122010-03-10T00:50:37.924+00:002010-03-10T00:50:37.924+00:00My initial reaction to this story when I first hea...My initial reaction to this story when I first heard about it was disbelief.<br />Quite literally because it occurred to me to pass the story on...but I thought "no, this needs to be checked".<br /><br />Of course it didn't take long for the report to "go viral". That it was confirmed as true, my feelings were torn between anger and despair. However.<br /><br />If the politicians insist on going ahead with this period of purdah for the armed forces and the embedded journalists who are "in theatre" with them, then I have this suggestion to make:<br /><br />Can we please, during the run up to the election, have a ban on all non factual reporting from politicians embedded in our news media, and a similar ban on journalists/media and PR types embedded in our political parties?muddypawshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705787157023015996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-18603898015600549182010-03-10T00:26:36.764+00:002010-03-10T00:26:36.764+00:00My mum has the link SR... I'll get it and emai...My mum has the link SR... I'll get it and email it to youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-75288997073515374892010-03-09T12:40:48.498+00:002010-03-09T12:40:48.498+00:00If you look at the MoD announcements, you'll f...If you look at the MoD announcements, you'll find that the last tribute is almost always from Ainsworth.<br /><br />From the press release regarding <a href="http://www.army.mod.uk/news/19583.aspx" rel="nofollow">Rifleman Maughan</a>, as the most recent example:<br /><br />'<b>Secretary of State for Defence, Bob Ainsworth, said</b>:<br /><br />"I was sorry to hear of the loss of Rifleman Liam Maughan.I understand that he was a calm and professional soldier who was a great asset to the Army.<br /><br />"My condolences go out to his family and friends as they come to terms with their loss." '<br /><br />It's hardly proof (pace the discussion with Billy on the other thread), just a different interpretation. We may both be wrong!Surreptitious Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393411103584747731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-50251739744506988492010-03-09T11:46:29.839+00:002010-03-09T11:46:29.839+00:00Naw I think it's minimum Evil. Ministers seld...Naw I think it's minimum Evil. Ministers seldom comment on fatalities except the false grief they show at PMQs. It's to say the MoD announcement should be kept to a minimum I think.<br /><br />Always willing to be proved wrong though...subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-54764070979321478452010-03-09T09:24:51.898+00:002010-03-09T09:24:51.898+00:00"Min" here, I think is "Minister&qu..."Min" here, I think is "Minister" rather than "minimum"?Surreptitious Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393411103584747731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-15171932743120412852010-03-09T02:21:46.441+00:002010-03-09T02:21:46.441+00:00Mrs Rigby, next time I write about the military I ...Mrs Rigby, next time I write about the military I will do my best to remember to link to your posts.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-6725627662451512852010-03-09T01:51:51.909+00:002010-03-09T01:51:51.909+00:00I wrote about this earlier today, including mentio...I wrote about this earlier today, including mentioning Bruce Anderson's article, and have just written something else.<br /><br />I doubt many will visit my place who haven't already read your blog, but I've added a link to my last piece to help 'get the word out' because, well, you never know.<br /><br />I don't think I've been so angry for a long time.Mrs Rigbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06389986110372627649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-40469868314661400402010-03-09T00:18:08.442+00:002010-03-09T00:18:08.442+00:00Tris, that would be great. I read German papers b...Tris, that would be great. I read German papers but my other languages are pathetic really.<br /><br />Would appreciate the link.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-57691365911682630082010-03-09T00:17:29.356+00:002010-03-09T00:17:29.356+00:00I'm sure you, like me, would think memos like ...I'm sure you, like me, would think memos like these have never been sent before Jess. I can't remember ever having heard of the likes before.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-47149390515516719692010-03-09T00:16:18.573+00:002010-03-09T00:16:18.573+00:00Brownlie, there are so many who aren't interes...Brownlie, there are so many who aren't interested in these wars because they don't see them as having anything to do with them. That's labour voters for you.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-76200722037270878452010-03-09T00:15:03.371+00:002010-03-09T00:15:03.371+00:00Rose is one of the very few who has spoken out Joh...Rose is one of the very few who has spoken out John. I too feel others are told 'don't speak out, you'll just upset the ones who are still fighting' or some such nonsense.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-28877479123201869392010-03-09T00:12:39.641+00:002010-03-09T00:12:39.641+00:00Yes banned, Bruce Anderson's article was excel...Yes banned, Bruce Anderson's article was excellent.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-14216580681666877232010-03-09T00:12:02.049+00:002010-03-09T00:12:02.049+00:00The memos are a disgrace to our military CF. I...The memos are a disgrace to our military CF. I'll check you out on Twitter and give a hand.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-24409307103608406442010-03-09T00:11:23.157+00:002010-03-09T00:11:23.157+00:00Aye CD, it's a disgrace. Time you did overthr...Aye CD, it's a disgrace. Time you did overthrow the whole pile of them. Would only take you 10 minutes.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-83725032832586552712010-03-08T23:36:24.001+00:002010-03-08T23:36:24.001+00:00It is up to us bloggers to make sure that the &quo...It is up to us bloggers to make sure that the "min" tribute rule is completely ignored.<br /><br />I have somewhere and will post on your blog, with your permission SR, when I find it, a web site with links to many European newpapers' english language editions, and I will look at french language newspapers and blog on anything I see there.<br /><br />These muppets need to understand that the days of keeping stuff quiet is well and truly over, and the least we can do is to ensure that these men are paid a proper tribute.<br /><br />How dare the filthy low scum bucket do this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-30306577609746474862010-03-08T22:59:36.667+00:002010-03-08T22:59:36.667+00:00This is a shocking abuse of the 'purdah' p...This is a shocking abuse of the 'purdah' principle to bury bad news. <br /><br />It will backfire as shown by the leaking of the memo.<br /><br />Tragically, casualties this year are likely to be far higher than even 2009, if the current rate continues. Most of the losses aren't even in the major offensive operation elsewhere in Helmand....they're in Sangin and nearby.<br /><br />http://jess-the-dog.blogspot.com/2010/03/british-deaths-in-afghanistan-questions.htmlJess The Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01694805454982688213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-17959178559010970562010-03-08T22:24:17.149+00:002010-03-08T22:24:17.149+00:00subrosa,
It is difficult to comment on this witho...subrosa,<br /><br />It is difficult to comment on this without swearing. As the death count gets higher and higher so these people plumb the depths without a thought for the servicemen and their families. Yet the sheep still maintain that they will still vote for this revolting party.brownliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09690872114535168567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32057990057372793642010-03-08T22:12:34.468+00:002010-03-08T22:12:34.468+00:00I do have some belief re parents etc being manipul...I do have some belief re parents etc being manipulated - http://tinyurl.com/yffznqy - it would be unusual if the opportunity were missed.<br />The other thing that opens my nostrils a bit is what appears in obits. The same phrases appear and I wonder if CO have a MOD directive as to what to say - refer to blog re Fatalities suggests there are controls.<br />I do not know what scope there might be in a concerted campaign to use Govt petitions route and FoI actions. The news that does appear needs to be Google cached to circumvent MOD censorship with location of mirrors widely distributed. We most certainly must not accept this sort of 3rd Reich treatment. That didn't last a 1000 years - this should not last 1000 seconds <br />@agedparentAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13657902425257354006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-42728974297292322762010-03-08T21:13:20.674+00:002010-03-08T21:13:20.674+00:00CrazyDaiy, see "A Very British Coup" sta...CrazyDaiy, see "A Very British Coup" starring Ray McAnally, © Channel 4.<br /><br />Nick Gurr is clearly a fool, one of those who uses 1984 as an instruction manual rather than as a warning.<br />Meanwhile it is heartening to read <br />The Independent going off message with Bruce Anderson saying<br /> "Lying to Parliament used to be regarded as just about the gravest offence that a politician could commit. But there is a worse one: lying to or about the armed forces."<br /><br />Quite so.bannedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02406037760273820029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-42026412283527515972010-03-08T21:12:53.162+00:002010-03-08T21:12:53.162+00:00Aye, SR, blogged this too this morning. Trying to ...Aye, SR, blogged this too this morning. Trying to get a Twitter tag = #silencedArmy - going as well.<br /><br />As a commenter said, this is is a New Low for New Labour...Constantly Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820008075933084222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36902437078678495022010-03-08T21:04:01.210+00:002010-03-08T21:04:01.210+00:00SR
The truth will finally out, Labour are finishe...SR<br /><br />The truth will finally out, Labour are finished now with the Armed Forces. To betray us is an extremely foolish thing to do, we were weeks away from overthrowing the last Labour Govt, it can be done again........if we're forced, read your history cyclops!CrazyDaisyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17649222063383489990noreply@blogger.com