tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post8229015226596496296..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: 'The Scottish Government is answerable only to the Scottish people'subrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-51968669269126222412010-08-01T21:03:54.324+01:002010-08-01T21:03:54.324+01:00As I've said previously Strathturret, the Scot...As I've said previously Strathturret, the Scots seem rather complacent about the EU at present. For some reason it they don't appear to think it relates to them but to England only.<br /><br />Have you ever broached the subject at the doors?<br /><br />We can have what you want without giving the EU so much more than is returned. Other countries handle it like that and they're not paying for unelected people to call the tune.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-88322504531246628462010-08-01T18:00:10.054+01:002010-08-01T18:00:10.054+01:00Yes I've been knocking doors again; only 9+ mo...Yes I've been knocking doors again; only 9+ months to next election! Nobody mentions EU as an issue on the doors! If you dip into the blogworld its a parallel world where all the English rightwing Torygraph types seem absolutely obsessed with their imagined wrongs of the EU.<br /><br />Personally 65 years of european peace and free movement of labour and a level playing field for business seems pretty good to me.Strathturrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02824645626620377993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-49411888382167649882010-07-31T22:28:32.814+01:002010-07-31T22:28:32.814+01:00Strathturret, I know the Scots have little interes...Strathturret, I know the Scots have little interest in the EU. For some reason they don't think it affects them much but one day they'll have to waken up.<br /><br />I know there are tory and labour voters who are pro-independence but unfortunately the SNP has not generated much debate about independence. There was the Big Conversation then nothing. People want to know how we will cope financially and get no answers.<br /><br />We could stay with the £ initially but I see you think we ought to stay with the EU and the euro. I disagree with that.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-15720060491832987302010-07-31T15:26:17.299+01:002010-07-31T15:26:17.299+01:00Remind me Subrosa how many votes the anti EU parti...Remind me Subrosa how many votes the anti EU parties gained at the last Election in Scotland? UKIP + BNP must have recorded all of 2% between them. There your answer.<br /><br />If the SNP is no longer interested in independence why do us activist keep asking voters their views on it all the time on the doorsteps? An amazing number of Conservative/Labour voters are pro independence!<br /><br />The real problem of being independent outside the EU is which currency do you use?<br /><br />For Scotland the options are £(politically unacceptable long term), Euro (need to be in EU) or our own (risky with a small country dependent on oil price).<br /><br />My money is on the Euro provided it survives the present economic firestorm.Strathturrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02824645626620377993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-83413899147173903362010-07-31T10:52:53.870+01:002010-07-31T10:52:53.870+01:00Ah yes EP, one of the thorns in my side. That and ...Ah yes EP, one of the thorns in my side. That and climate change, just like RM.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-8585615150742646572010-07-31T10:51:05.219+01:002010-07-31T10:51:05.219+01:00Niko, what do you want me to call the folk who liv...Niko, what do you want me to call the folk who live in Scotland? Mugs?subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-30821114496431161472010-07-31T10:50:35.857+01:002010-07-31T10:50:35.857+01:00You were fortunate RM. There was no candidate her...You were fortunate RM. There was no candidate here. Somehow I think independence is back in the cupboard and is not going to be aired for some time. The past few years, when there were opportunities, the chances were lost and I don't see any better ones in the immediate future.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-13441305306237707342010-07-31T09:32:37.367+01:002010-07-31T09:32:37.367+01:00"The Scottish Government is only answerable t...<i>"The Scottish Government is only answerable to the Scottish People"</i><br />Except, of course that it's answerable to the E.U.English Pensionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271488641341955140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-80932616486170570372010-07-31T09:24:59.994+01:002010-07-31T09:24:59.994+01:00That there Scottish people concept you and Alex ke...That there Scottish people concept you and Alex keep trotting out.<br /><br />does that include the East European immigrant's(and all the others) eligible to vote to in the Scottish election.Nikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-43891540936373625762010-07-31T03:12:56.658+01:002010-07-31T03:12:56.658+01:00subrosa- I was able to vote UKIP at the recent ele...subrosa- I was able to vote UKIP at the recent election.<br />It didn't change anything locally but it added to their national vote. That covered my opposition to the EU and the global warming scam. Two of my main bugbears ! So I felt slightly better.<br />I'd sadly say goodbye to Independence if it meant getting Great Britain back from the EU !RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-57996348157388570922010-07-31T02:57:47.748+01:002010-07-31T02:57:47.748+01:00The problem is RM, who then do believers in indepe...The problem is RM, who then do believers in independence vote for? UKIP don't stand in every constituency in Scotland.<br /><br />I'm disillusioned also - perhaps you've noticed.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-77448429117501114922010-07-31T02:55:35.348+01:002010-07-31T02:55:35.348+01:00Apologies for my error Danny. Now I know that it&...Apologies for my error Danny. Now I know that it's not for re-election then Menendez must be doing Obama's work for him with regard to pulling BP's shares further down the scale.<br /><br />If he's so concerned about the release of Megrahi, he's taken far too long to display his thoughts.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-33167025043535321742010-07-31T02:52:55.281+01:002010-07-31T02:52:55.281+01:00Dram, I don't think the EU is there for any mo...Dram, I don't think the EU is there for any moral reason. It perhaps began as a moral idea to keep Europe peaceful. That's worked but now we just go further afield to create wars. Associate would be fine.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-27598696691771229192010-07-31T02:46:28.182+01:002010-07-31T02:46:28.182+01:00I see independence slipping down the agenda Hamish...I see independence slipping down the agenda Hamish. A year ago I saw hope and now I see much less of it.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-46039134712400581892010-07-31T02:44:32.945+01:002010-07-31T02:44:32.945+01:00What a strange comment Keith. Do you think any gov...What a strange comment Keith. Do you think any government should be able to cross-question any other all in the name of foreign relations?subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-60721978563510161492010-07-31T02:40:42.017+01:002010-07-31T02:40:42.017+01:00Of course you're right WFW, silly me.
I'...Of course you're right WFW, silly me. <br /><br />I'm not too sure the Scots are beginning to waken up, it's sadly just the odd few I think, but there's a saying here 'mony a mickle maks a muckle' (loose translation: every little counts).<br /><br />Conan has answered your question. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-15270603550531463382010-07-31T02:38:13.008+01:002010-07-31T02:38:13.008+01:00JJ, the US won't even give documents to the En...JJ, the US won't even give documents to the English coroners who undertake the inquests on British soldiers.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-34250264307737648262010-07-31T01:04:58.648+01:002010-07-31T01:04:58.648+01:00I'd never vote SNP again. After 30 years of su...I'd never vote SNP again. After 30 years of support.<br />It's now a vile party that believes in the EU, the global warming scam and mass 3rd world immigration.<br />Oh and it quietly dumped the chance of a vote on Independence despite Bendy Wendy screaming 'bring it on'.<br />Methinks Wendy knew that the SNP were just anonther Establishment flunky party.<br />Sadly she was right.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-17755983278521843622010-07-31T00:26:47.105+01:002010-07-31T00:26:47.105+01:00I agree with your view. But just one small quibble...I agree with your view. But just one small quibble. Whatever the motivation of Senator Menendez (or the other senator from New Jersey, Senator Lautenberg), it is not votes for reelection in this November's congressional election. Neither man is up for reelection to the senate this year. Since the senate term is six years, and the federal elections occur at two year intervals, only one-third of the senate seats are contested in any one election. Neither of the two New Jersey seats are contested this year.Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450203101640592230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-22176368085431398622010-07-30T22:29:41.342+01:002010-07-30T22:29:41.342+01:00Mmmmm...... Re AS spot-on re America; as for membe...Mmmmm...... Re AS spot-on re America; as for membership of the EU..........I've always thought Associate would be good enough which implies a degree of independance while being "generally" in tune with europian intelectual guidance. Allowing us, of course, to differ on various items. Such as the price of booze and the need to beat the S... out of nasty B......'. (sorry) people when they allow the brute beast to surface in themselves. But that's just me, a prat of a Calvin upbringing. So maybe the EU is there to save folk from nasty gits like me.....so associate it has to be and no more.Dramfinedayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15317798317549135378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-53923686477660170862010-07-30T22:13:49.967+01:002010-07-30T22:13:49.967+01:00Once Scotland has regained its independence, the S...Once Scotland has regained its independence, the SNP will have no further purpose to serve and should disband.<br />So it will have no say in the subsequent decisions of the Scottish people.Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-11788409645564194922010-07-30T22:05:44.779+01:002010-07-30T22:05:44.779+01:00WFW
The clue's in the name aLEX.
I've alwa...WFW<br />The clue's in the name aLEX.<br />I've always wondered how Terence could become "Tel" masel.Conan the Librarian™https://www.blogger.com/profile/01904339261121451779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-15018226182903358212010-07-30T21:33:10.811+01:002010-07-30T21:33:10.811+01:00"The Scottish Government is only answerable t...<i>"The Scottish Government is only answerable to the Scottish People"</i><br /><br />...except when the actions of that government impact on citizens of other countries, surely? Or should national leaders be able to act with impunity when it comes to foreign relations?Keith Ruffleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02276510754351064796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36355853532427745682010-07-30T21:23:21.759+01:002010-07-30T21:23:21.759+01:00SR,
For heaven's sake lass, Salmond is a poli...SR, <br />For heaven's sake lass, Salmond is a politician and he is no more likely to ask Scottish voters their views on EU membership than I am likely to be elected Pope!<br /><br />Anyway, extremely pleased to hear that the Scots are beginning to wake up to what we English have known for yonks!<br /><br />Question: "Well done Eck" - "Eck"? Translation for a foreigner, please?Witterings from Witneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11349563961787006775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-45270297031018312202010-07-30T21:22:49.999+01:002010-07-30T21:22:49.999+01:00Why should we give a damn about American senators ...Why should we give a damn about American senators losing votes.<br /><br />Just who do they think they are?<br />Calling across the pond like a headmaster calling naughty errant schoolboys to his study to account for themselves.<br /><br />Sod off!<br /><br />Would any Americans upon request come over here to answer questions...I think not!JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239651363530826401noreply@blogger.com