tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post5717023836397922460..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Bully or Investor?subrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-41301475826979878782010-09-15T11:55:50.134+01:002010-09-15T11:55:50.134+01:00You're forgiven Weekend Yachtsman. I've a...You're forgiven Weekend Yachtsman. I've a sour taste in my mouth about this these days too.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-35066341172929323792010-09-15T11:48:14.414+01:002010-09-15T11:48:14.414+01:00"Why did the police arrest the two documentar..."Why did the police arrest the two documentary makers for breach of the peace, hold them for hour hours, handcuff one, take their DNA, take photographs and fingerprints..."<br /><br />Money talks, that's why.<br /><br />And Trump is a ruthless b*****d who is determined to get his way whatever.<br /><br />The spineless "useful idiots" who allowed this man to have his way in their country should be hanging their heads in shame. <br /><br />How many more golf courses could we possibly need, for heaven's sake? The whole place is carpeted with them as it is. All it will mean is a load more over-rich Yanks throwing their ignorant weight about in Scotland. Local jobs? Don't make me laugh; a handful of minimum-wage skivvies is all it will amount to, and most of those will go to immigrants.<br /><br />Forgive me if I sound bitter.Weekend Yachtsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262853091154005651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-80441392141776087612010-09-15T00:47:07.318+01:002010-09-15T00:47:07.318+01:00Labour were all for it Allan. Jack even took Trump...Labour were all for it Allan. Jack even took Trump in a wee trip in a helicopter to view his 'estate'.<br /><br />It'll be interesting to watch just how successful it is. Of course all Trump's hangers on will drop by to offer their dollars for a game but once they've been and gone who will replace them?subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-9536833442998314022010-09-14T19:13:39.275+01:002010-09-14T19:13:39.275+01:00I was against this from the off, and the sight of ...I was against this from the off, and the sight of Aberdeenshire councillors and a local MSP seduced by American dollars on Newsnicht confirmed my fears that something's have taken place to make sure this has gone ahead, look at the splintering of the Lib Dem group in Aberdeenshire council for proof of that. As I remember it, New Labour were all for this as well.<br /><br />IMO the claims that this would be a boost to the scottish economy was always going to be a false one. A lot of the visitors would be housed behind a gated area, and the claim that this would help employment... well how many Scottish voices do you hear working in hotels in this country? Proof if any that the SNP are no slouches in the "parcel o rougues" stakes compared to their... er... "Unionist" rival's.Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13574173214924437278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-16471379081436192212010-09-14T11:48:54.135+01:002010-09-14T11:48:54.135+01:00It'll get passed RM. The council are now stuck...It'll get passed RM. The council are now stuck between a rock and a hard place.<br /><br />The 5 homeowners that Trump wants out will be hounded until they give up because they can't take the pressure. Sad but true.<br /><br />PS thanks for the link. Hadn't got round to reading the P & J yet.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-90154703066302983262010-09-14T11:44:47.195+01:002010-09-14T11:44:47.195+01:00No it was strange I couldn't find it elsewhere...No it was strange I couldn't find it elsewhere Julia. It'll be good to read your take on it, as always.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-54161130897722854292010-09-14T08:57:01.161+01:002010-09-14T08:57:01.161+01:00I see the P&J are reporting that the compost m...I see the P&J are reporting that the compost maker and builders yard / machinery storage etc are being built up against the main objector's property. All against the initial plans put in for the golf course.<br /><br /><br />http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1913595?UserKey&UserKey=RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-61431210537624654842010-09-14T08:01:34.625+01:002010-09-14T08:01:34.625+01:00Ah, I wondered if anyone had spotted this yesterda...Ah, I wondered if anyone had spotted this yesterday. The 'Guardian' didn't give it the prominence they normally would have for a 'bullying rich capitalist vs journalist's story, did they?<br /><br />I've got a post cued up later for this week. Will link.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-29877989316211894052010-09-14T03:42:14.134+01:002010-09-14T03:42:14.134+01:00Andrew, I didn't know about the damage to cons...Andrew, I didn't know about the damage to construction equipment. My friends who live there are currently in Dubai so I'm not up to date.<br /><br />The police may be jumpy but they've got to show fairness. That's the point I was trying to make.<br /><br />Of course Trump and his ilk are only in it for the money. I'd like to think he will leave a legacy but living not too far from you surrounded by a multitude of golfers, not one has said they would consider playing his course. Why should they when the likes of St Andrew's is less than an hours drive and the same for Gleneagles. Plus here there are 5 course and 4 have waiting lists for membership.<br /><br />You may say that's not the people he wants to attract, but they'll be his bread and butter. His hotel won't be full all the time and may well turn out like the Carnoustie one.<br /><br />As for Plane Stupid their fines should have been much greater. They're a danger to all of us these people.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-6455859900728891972010-09-14T02:11:08.289+01:002010-09-14T02:11:08.289+01:00Subrosa, I disagree.
"It is about greed and ...Subrosa, I disagree.<br /><br />"It is about greed and power, nothing more."<br /><br />I'm afraid that's capitalism whether you like it or not, and the same could be described about most large companies.<br /><br />Trump is not providing a public service, but he is providing a heck of a lot of inward investment, and will hopefully leave a legacy which will play a part in sustaining the future economy of NE Scotland.<br /><br />As far as dirty tricks go, hopefully those investigating the complaint will get to the bottom of it and justice will prevail. Anything said just now is mere conjecture and conspiracy theories. If it is indeed proven I hope proper punishment is meted out. If it is not proven, I'm sure everybody on this thread will just put it down to a police cover-up.<br /><br />I see nobody has mentioned the theft and damage to construction equipment on site, the reason why Grampian Police are monitoring the site closely. Or the fact that 'Plane Stupid' are closely associated with actions against the development, not necessarily legal actions either, and have implied further action in the future. No wonder the police are jumpy.<br /><br />http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1889155<br /><br />And yes, you'll probably have guessed I'm from Aberdeenshire. Only locals could support such a tragic development.Andrew BODhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11760729285415432266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-20910873530998063162010-09-13T23:58:55.109+01:002010-09-13T23:58:55.109+01:00Don't be afraid SB as we are all infallible bu...Don't be afraid SB as we are all infallible but this man disgusts me in his arrogant condescending manner that he knows better than natural processes. As to the police just look at the 'club' that most council workers (NE area) are members of will answer their motives. very annoyed.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-25436628831788287752010-09-13T23:23:30.526+01:002010-09-13T23:23:30.526+01:00Sorry Rosie but just exactly how do you think you ...Sorry Rosie but just exactly how do you think you will be able to stop the police doing what the money (read power) tells them to do?Indyanhathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07974285525646225459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-12097934548793608412010-09-13T23:06:24.915+01:002010-09-13T23:06:24.915+01:00It's not far from me either CR. We can't ...It's not far from me either CR. We can't allow the man or his henchmen to use our police as their personal security company though.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-21356722300655365062010-09-13T23:05:02.469+01:002010-09-13T23:05:02.469+01:00It was Billy but I think there was a lot more to t...It was Billy but I think there was a lot more to that situation than we'll ever know.<br /><br />This is a different situation altogether but I still don't like their tactics.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-38250768198547699252010-09-13T23:04:11.036+01:002010-09-13T23:04:11.036+01:00Afraid you're right CH and I was wrong. It is...Afraid you're right CH and I was wrong. It is about greed and power, nothing more.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-72728991908895096402010-09-13T23:03:25.157+01:002010-09-13T23:03:25.157+01:00Hi Alex. Aye, John Swinney was damned if he said ...Hi Alex. Aye, John Swinney was damned if he said yes and damned if he said no to this development. The councillors had made that scenario and forced the decision.<br /><br />What worries me is the power they seem to have with the police. Since when did we have such heavy tactics up here?subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-52023836937573089172010-09-13T22:09:37.886+01:002010-09-13T22:09:37.886+01:00This splendiferous golf course is not far from me....This splendiferous golf course is not far from me.<br /><br />Locals in suppport are thinking short term. The nay-sayers have the right of it:<br /><br />Trump will screw us all.<br /><br />Nuff said.<br /><br />CR.Captain Rantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07839241144954596066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-66285862302536190562010-09-13T21:43:40.026+01:002010-09-13T21:43:40.026+01:00Funny was this not the same police force who arres...Funny was this not the same police force who arrested a journalist for trying to get an independent inquiry into the Holly abuse scandal?Billy Carlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09898259422411934272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-89971079189158251952010-09-13T20:57:10.493+01:002010-09-13T20:57:10.493+01:00http://www.trippinguptrump.com/trump-developments
...http://www.trippinguptrump.com/trump-developments<br /><br />He's not someone we should be encouraging to invest in this country as Scots culture isn't about greed.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-75279171495990263352010-09-13T20:35:40.451+01:002010-09-13T20:35:40.451+01:00Hi Rosie,
There was never any doubt in my mind tha...Hi Rosie,<br />There was never any doubt in my mind that Trump is not to be trusted. That was not the issue before and was confused with it.<br /><br />Trump had and has the same rights as anyone who wants to apply for planning permission etc. He can't be stopped on the basis that he has a bad business reputation. And Soros is not my and never will be my friends either.<br /><br />The problem with his application was that he was in the right and denying him his rights was a complete joke of democracy.<br /><br />In trying to pin the blame on the SNP for a foolish set of decisions made by other parties in council chambers, campaigners stupidly forced the government to protect his rights and so him too.<br /><br />I think there are ways to deal with the man and many others like him but that was certainly not one of them!Alex Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06577153712026023661noreply@blogger.com