tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post3074278951575080465..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Please Right A Wrongsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-44978006081319159152010-07-19T20:17:10.859+01:002010-07-19T20:17:10.859+01:00Feel free sm753. You're perfectly entitled to...Feel free sm753. You're perfectly entitled to propose such a thing.<br /><br />A flag pole for our national flag on a national monument is not a waste of money in my view. If you think that is the case, then the upkeep of the flag pole flying the Union Jack is too.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-46436889943888732072010-07-19T16:19:21.786+01:002010-07-19T16:19:21.786+01:00I'm thinking about setting up an alternative p...I'm thinking about setting up an alternative position calling for the construction of a huge new flagpole from which will fly a giant-size Union flag, of similar proportions to those flown in various Arab capitals.<br /><br />We are talking MASSIVE.<br /><br />On the other hand, we could all choose to forget such a blatant waste of money.sm753https://www.blogger.com/profile/04474549226665639347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-67251189931441181302010-07-19T07:35:12.001+01:002010-07-19T07:35:12.001+01:00SR
Mr Mixed letters is very brave sat behind a ke...SR<br /><br />Mr Mixed letters is very brave sat behind a keyboard. Bet he isn't man enough to spit on me in reality! For the record tough guy I swore nothing, I signed the Official Secrets Act.. Just a thought but have you been drinking Kaliber? You seem a little mixed up and cowardly?<br /><br />You are right, my line managers know exactly my thoughts and they are very aware of my political position. I hide nothing. That said interesting that a Unionist poster takes offence at a straight forward opinion which is mine to opine.<br /><br />Have a lovely day Madame.<br /><br />CDCrazyDaisyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17649222063383489990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-86794707180132175592010-07-19T04:59:40.866+01:002010-07-19T04:59:40.866+01:00Ms Pangloss, I forgot you'd see oor castle eve...Ms Pangloss, I forgot you'd see oor castle every day. Thank you for signing.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-21546227101369871122010-07-18T21:30:49.486+01:002010-07-18T21:30:49.486+01:00RA, we're a region of Europe as you know. The...RA, we're a region of Europe as you know. The only way London can stamp there authority is by such petty, insulting objectives.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-28111772383631569362010-07-18T21:28:41.459+01:002010-07-18T21:28:41.459+01:00We can but protest Dram. Shall we take to the str...We can but protest Dram. Shall we take to the streets? The disruption with the trams project makes that kind of impossible,<br /><br />Of course that was another unionist decision to have the one tram line disrupt the city for years. In a few generation's time it'll be done away with because it new technology will usurp it.<br /><br />What a waste.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70151886669353226862010-07-18T21:28:36.523+01:002010-07-18T21:28:36.523+01:00We can but protest Dram. Shall we take to the str...We can but protest Dram. Shall we take to the streets? The disruption with the trams project makes that kind of impossible,<br /><br />Of course that was another unionist decision to have the one tram line disrupt the city for years. In a few generation's time it'll be done away with because it new technology will usurp it.<br /><br />What a waste.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-60472578428299589372010-07-18T21:25:47.035+01:002010-07-18T21:25:47.035+01:00What can I say Conan?
As history says it's al...What can I say Conan?<br /><br />As history says it's always been a Scots army base until recently but it's always flown the Union Jack and I'm told the Saltire on occasions. Now London have decided to base English regiments there. because they want to rid themselves of Scottish regiments (and they're doing a good job) then the Saltire doesn't matter.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-84918667376942121802010-07-18T21:22:37.559+01:002010-07-18T21:22:37.559+01:00Hamish, don't be upset. You know the flag is ...Hamish, don't be upset. You know the flag is an emotional issue and because of that fact some may have not quite 'got the gist' of your comment. I'm sure they didn't mean to criticise now they know the full story.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-30967656607185519752010-07-18T21:20:38.726+01:002010-07-18T21:20:38.726+01:00Sophia, thankfully I seldom see that but it wud pi...Sophia, thankfully I seldom see that but it wud pit meh ire up I tell ye.<br /><br />What is it with our Scottish politicians that they can't insist our flag flies?<br /><br />Unionism I expect yet I'm sad the SNP don't shout about it more - but of course they have in the past.<br /><br />If I recall, this all happened when an English regiment took residence in the castle some years ago. The first time in history.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-19622518936509971682010-07-18T21:17:52.532+01:002010-07-18T21:17:52.532+01:00Yoohoo CD, that's it in a nutshell isn't i...Yoohoo CD, that's it in a nutshell isn't it? To serve your country you have to do it under the banner of a controlling country.<br /><br />End of discussion indeed!subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-19464102447429126562010-07-18T21:15:21.969+01:002010-07-18T21:15:21.969+01:00Me too RA. For unionists to claim it as 'thei...Me too RA. For unionists to claim it as 'their own' is a step too far.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-61550512568890299212010-07-18T21:14:06.466+01:002010-07-18T21:14:06.466+01:00crazy daisy
takes the kings shilling then betrays...crazy daisy<br /><br />takes the kings shilling then betrays him alongside his comrades...<br /><br />I spit on him a traitor to both the British nation which he took an oath to protect and the Scottish nation which he does not have the guts to fight for.Nikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-58841554783350534932010-07-18T20:57:52.425+01:002010-07-18T20:57:52.425+01:00Done - and so we will be no doubt!Done - and so we will be no doubt!Dramfinedayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15317798317549135378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-51501927785885953752010-07-18T18:49:50.387+01:002010-07-18T18:49:50.387+01:00If 10 Downing St can fly a St George's Cross, ...If 10 Downing St can fly a St George's Cross, why can't a Scottish castle fly a Saltire?<br /><br />Of course the reason is that the Castle is still a British Army base, so the Union Flag must fly the highest.<br /><br />Now, if it were a Scots Army base...Conan the Librarian™https://www.blogger.com/profile/01904339261121451779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-41563721934258737052010-07-18T18:45:23.510+01:002010-07-18T18:45:23.510+01:00From some of the comments, it appears I didn't...From some of the comments, it appears I didn't express myself clearly.<br />I did start by saying that I would sign the petition.<br />Of course the Saltire should fly over Edinburgh Castle and other public buildings here. And they are our buildings, whoever has their hands on the title deeds.<br /><br />The point I was trying to make is that there are contexts where the Union Jack is the appropriate flag. I thought this was well illustrated in the latest of Subrosa's poignant posts on Afghanistan. Whether you support the Union or not (I don't), whether you support the war in Afghanistan (I don't), those forces and their families (English, Scottish, Welsh, and others) deserve our support.Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-7961130731135731772010-07-18T15:55:08.948+01:002010-07-18T15:55:08.948+01:00Hip Hip Hurray! SR, thanks fer pyntin oot thon pet...Hip Hip Hurray! SR, thanks fer pyntin oot thon petition, ma signature's oan it noo an' ah'm a bit happier.<br />Ah see that Union rag flutterin there daily, an' ye ken, it breaks ma heart, every single day. The day they swap it fer Scotland's real flag, is the day ah ken we've regained oor pride in oorsels, an' ownership o' oor nation. It may ony be a flag fleein in the wind tae some fowk, but it's sae visible, sae prominent, sae symbolic, that it means a hale lot mair tae me an' ma kind.<br /><br />Ah actually clapped when ah read ma pal tris's comment at 13.39. Gaun yersel son, we'll manage that yin day. Heeeuch!!Sophia Panglosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10089164117446635962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-46147617475793709592010-07-18T15:24:57.598+01:002010-07-18T15:24:57.598+01:00SR
Signed, and work for Lizzie under the butcher&...SR<br /><br />Signed, and work for Lizzie under the butcher's apron I have no other avenue open to me if I wish to serve Scotland.<br /><br />That said, we are given 8.5% of Defence spending which hasn't happened over the last 4 years of Labour, Scotland was denied £4.5Bn of her share of Defence Spending. <br /><br />Funny how we have more decommissioned subs sat alongside in Scotland compared with rest of the remaining countries collectively - again not the 8.5 % based on population.<br /><br />Another Union dividend, I think not.<br /><br />Fly the Saltire above the Rock, end of discussion.<br /><br />CDCrazyDaisyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17649222063383489990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-57621461569529890182010-07-18T14:36:35.733+01:002010-07-18T14:36:35.733+01:00... and Hamish;
In the days of yore when adventur...... and Hamish;<br /><br />In the days of yore when adventurous Scots travelled the world under the union rag's auspices,as in Empire. Many left dire poverty and penuric circumstances behind them to improve their lot, be it in the service of the crown or on private ventures to explore or to settle on pastures new; Did they not name those places they founded, those rivers and valleys they traversed, those hills and mountains they conquered in foreign places in rememberance of English towns such as Perth,Dundee, Airdrie. Did those adverturous Scots not name villages, rivers,valleys, hills and mountains in rememberance of places they left? English place names perhaps?<br /><br />...and all over the world today, the inhabitants of those places now fly that Union Jack alongside their national emblem to celebrate the connection between Scotland and themselves. <br /><br />Oh yes they do, I'm sure they do. Just goes to show what the having of perceptions,dislikes and indulgencies in certain opinionated affiliations can produce by way of ignorance and lack of respect for other folk.Particulary in this instance by institutionalised armchair jobsworths.<br />...and that flag they fly alongside their national flag in the Perths, the Dundees, the Airdries in foreign places with respect, awareness and perhaps fond affiliation to is not quite the whole Union jack but mibee a constituent part of it. A stand alone part in it's own right as our national emblem representing our nation, our country and our ain folk whatever our diversity, it is our flag and represents us. leastways.wisnaemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08321760444005969142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-91275344976902723722010-07-18T14:03:08.155+01:002010-07-18T14:03:08.155+01:00tris
yes that would lead to ARMcGeddon ;)tris<br /><br />yes that would lead to ARMcGeddon ;)RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-76234533079635509962010-07-18T13:50:27.766+01:002010-07-18T13:50:27.766+01:00Aye Mr McGeddon... to blow them up would be a bit ...Aye Mr McGeddon... to blow them up would be a bit of an own goal, I can't help but think!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-79411053120111853162010-07-18T13:47:41.950+01:002010-07-18T13:47:41.950+01:00tris
Yes it is sad. But that's where we are. ...tris<br /><br />Yes it is sad. But that's where we are. Only Independence would change the situation.<br />The rusting hulks of nuclear subs leaking into the Forth at Rosyth are another thing we can't do anything about.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32177898038936221822010-07-18T13:39:12.591+01:002010-07-18T13:39:12.591+01:00Mr McGeddon:
Seems that even our own castle in...Mr McGeddon: <br /><br />Seems that even our own castle in our own capital belongs to someone else.<br /><br />Sad.<br /><br />"The natives" might, I suppose, be satisfied with our flag flying over our castle in our capital, but I won't be happy till there is no sign anywhere of the tasteless garish colours of occupation.<br /><br />If the UK has to have a flag, could it not have one that looks like a messy explosion in a paint factory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-27644615531344429502010-07-18T13:36:18.721+01:002010-07-18T13:36:18.721+01:00I'm more concerned that the land it stands on,...I'm more concerned that the land it stands on, the icon of protection and the people it represents, breathe the air of a free Scotland.Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230294511455500220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-26573763916405886682010-07-18T13:25:06.615+01:002010-07-18T13:25:06.615+01:00" Scotland's most famous castle does not ..." Scotland's most famous castle does not belong to the rest of the UK, only Scotland."<br /><br />It's owned by the Ministry of Defence so by rights it's not Scottish property. The UK government have formal control over it as defence isn't a devolved matter.<br />Historic Scotland will probably put up a saltire to keep the natives happy but it won't mean it's Scottish.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.com