tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post2645176068657850466..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Labour Attempts to Plug Into the Futuresubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-19630503334881397522011-03-23T11:47:28.262+00:002011-03-23T11:47:28.262+00:00Apogee, if you go to Richard's blog and read m...Apogee, if you go to Richard's blog and read microdave's link you may find a bit of the answer.<br /><br />I had a dream the other night. I couldn't walk on the pavements in Dundee because of the amount of cables from cars into tenement windows.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-56791397118090541062011-03-23T02:35:57.510+00:002011-03-23T02:35:57.510+00:00Hi SR,has anyone done the maths on the power requi...Hi SR,has anyone done the maths on the power required to recharge a street full of these things? Can the national grid handle the draw down of a couple of million cars all charging at night,over and above the normal peak when umpteen million kettles are suddenly being boiled after east enders ? <br />I suspect the lights will be going out.<br />Sad fact is the system capacity is unlikely to be big enough to ever stand the load,has any one ever worked out the electrical power required to power all the cars on the road? Its bigger than you think!Apogeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942349358439102449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-69390541741558320312011-03-22T18:26:00.548+00:002011-03-22T18:26:00.548+00:00Thanks Dave. I agree the lithium batteries are a ...Thanks Dave. I agree the lithium batteries are a serious problem yet the big car manufacturers are producing vehicles with them.<br /><br />I'll go and look at Richard's place.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-20496547409318281092011-03-22T16:47:06.476+00:002011-03-22T16:47:06.476+00:00I've posted some more info in the comments at ...I've posted some more info in the comments at Richards linked post. The 2 PDF's are truly worrying, if you've got the stomach to read through them. <br /><br />IIRC correctly Bolivia is the source of large amounts of Lithium, and is already threatened with ecological catastrophe due to the toxic by-products of the mining & purifying process.microdavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01352078582764696261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36076544576180365222011-03-22T11:16:38.844+00:002011-03-22T11:16:38.844+00:00Not only the batteries but the lithium contained t...Not only the batteries but the lithium contained therein petern. The greenies won't even remark on that.<br /><br />Of course we associate reducing use of something with saving money but that's not the way it works. Year on year prices increase by around 9-15%, thus any savings you thought you'd make are evaporated.<br /><br />Now that's a difficult one for the SNP. They've stuck so hard to selling renewables and I doubt if they'll change until the whole country is full of wind power and solar panels. They're the only ones who want the massive farm on the Griffin for example. I'm told even the local greenies weren't in favour of it because of the destruction to the area.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-71795673135869336682011-03-22T09:08:20.833+00:002011-03-22T09:08:20.833+00:00Batteries are the weakness of these plans and it&#...Batteries are the weakness of these plans and it's not going to be a quick fix since we've been working on this for years. Certainly things have improved but not by anything like we need.<br /><br />If electricity is going to be rationed then it's going to affect electric car use or non-use. That's obvious. <br /><br />Hybrids are a step forward. <br /><br />Saving energy is a good idea mainly because it saves us all money. The argument that reducing your energy bills saves you money however, is only a short term gain. The total price of energy for a year will become the same as it was before although we will use less. This has already been seen in the US when people reduced their water use, the savings were only short-term.<br /><br />No one has an answer to this as yet. <br /><br />How are Wee Eck and Deputy Nippy going to get around the absolute unavoidable need to increase nuclear? Even George Monbiot has jumped on that bandwagon which is progress, maybe. Where does that leave our esteemed Leader.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong I like and support bith Wee Eck and Deputy Nippy. I'd even go as far to say that they have character and a sense of humour etc.!!!!!petem130https://www.blogger.com/profile/15948128258971700269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-41045230475907568772011-03-22T00:48:47.097+00:002011-03-22T00:48:47.097+00:00You're too witty for this time of night Woodsy...You're too witty for this time of night Woodsy. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36513601840843923892011-03-22T00:10:17.444+00:002011-03-22T00:10:17.444+00:00it will be possible for energy to be drawn from th...it will be possible for energy to be drawn from the batteries to help cope with temporary shortages of generation.”<br /><br />So they will only work when the wind is blowing?Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-19321198288223116572011-03-21T23:17:41.343+00:002011-03-21T23:17:41.343+00:00Thank you Richard. That's the first time I...Thank you Richard. That's the first time I've heard that the intention was to have rationing, although it has been rumoured.<br /><br />Scary indeed.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-49669233637732001502011-03-21T23:16:35.926+00:002011-03-21T23:16:35.926+00:00Take me with you Crinkly - please.Take me with you Crinkly - please.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-56782390860306388762011-03-21T23:15:42.199+00:002011-03-21T23:15:42.199+00:00I've heard, aside from the use of battery juic...I've heard, aside from the use of battery juice, the heater is quite hopeless Joe.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-76310823385314242362011-03-21T23:14:41.037+00:002011-03-21T23:14:41.037+00:00At least we wouldn't have to wait for supplier...At least we wouldn't have to wait for suppliers to decide when we'll receive a charge SH!subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-29305515539140075422011-03-21T23:13:48.227+00:002011-03-21T23:13:48.227+00:00Yes, I possibly did rightwinggit. Ironic.Yes, I possibly did rightwinggit. Ironic.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-31204302933805383832011-03-21T21:59:36.437+00:002011-03-21T21:59:36.437+00:00Good post, Rosie, and duly linked.
Deferring your...Good post, Rosie, and duly <a href="http://goingfastgettingnowhere.blogspot.com/2011/03/electric-cars-sinister-truth.html" rel="nofollow">linked</a>.<br /><br />Deferring your charging if there is excess demand? Taking your electricity if the 'community' needs it? The totalitarian aims of the left were never so clearly visible.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-55275828620311319352011-03-21T21:16:14.483+00:002011-03-21T21:16:14.483+00:00Aberdeen to London - four days + three nights B&am...Aberdeen to London - four days + three nights B&B or hotel charges £200 - 300?<br /><br />Stop the world! I want to get off.Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08902364411241935656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-37286782748778761302011-03-21T20:57:34.420+00:002011-03-21T20:57:34.420+00:00Global warming won't even save them in Scotlan...Global warming won't even save them in Scotland.<br /><br />You have damn cold weather up there; and, it's prolonged.<br /><br />It might be worth asking the manufacture their <b>range when their electric heater is on</b>.Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829909061904690380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-3341977460991784942011-03-21T20:40:34.157+00:002011-03-21T20:40:34.157+00:00Bah! the way forward is clockwork cars!Bah! the way forward is clockwork cars!Smoking Hothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04534745989363293923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-14077921193955836842011-03-21T20:32:08.969+00:002011-03-21T20:32:08.969+00:00"I've no idea why anyone with an iota of ..."I've no idea why anyone with an iota of sense votes for them."<br /><br />I think you just answered your own question...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com