tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post2374023110285222350..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Today's Non-Storysubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-87566656334243266592010-09-26T10:06:16.462+01:002010-09-26T10:06:16.462+01:00I should think not DL. It could well deflate your...I should think not DL. It could well deflate your ego. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-39518351742159261612010-09-26T01:40:30.942+01:002010-09-26T01:40:30.942+01:00I as going to get my willy pierced, but not after ...I as going to get my willy pierced, but not after that!Dark Lochnagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09086636653505467565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-26481328240643311322010-09-25T09:44:31.044+01:002010-09-25T09:44:31.044+01:00I don't know LI. She could be employed in qua...I don't know LI. She could be employed in quality control surely. ;)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32620988978064221552010-09-25T09:43:54.565+01:002010-09-25T09:43:54.565+01:00Thank you BTS for the discussion.Thank you BTS for the discussion.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-71276838459468036912010-09-25T03:28:13.163+01:002010-09-25T03:28:13.163+01:00Well, at least she's trying to get a job.
Alt...Well, at least she's trying to get a job.<br /><br />Although presumably not in a magnet factory.Leg-ironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04932361799889315359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-62076799232984887992010-09-25T03:21:41.523+01:002010-09-25T03:21:41.523+01:00'I've never heard of anyone ever exiting a...'I've never heard of anyone ever exiting a job centre and considering the visit was worth while BTS. That's the real problem.'<br /><br />Too true.<br /><br />Tried it once.<br /><br />Nasty.<br /><br />Futile.<br /><br />Still feel dirty..<br /><br />Never again.<br /><br />Thanks for the discussion. Good night.BTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06329822079511033338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-62861840748173582692010-09-25T00:14:41.660+01:002010-09-25T00:14:41.660+01:00I've never heard of anyone ever exiting a job ...I've never heard of anyone ever exiting a job centre and considering the visit was worth while BTS. That's the real problem.<br /><br />Staff have boxes to tick. This man I presume had to discuss appearance and did it with such stupidity he created more of a problem for himself and his client.<br /><br />I don't have further resources to refer to BTS and you're right, speculation doesn't achieve anything.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-16757278460554869592010-09-25T00:07:57.247+01:002010-09-25T00:07:57.247+01:00We all like to be 'different' when young S...We all like to be 'different' when young SE, but by the age of 23 most have grown up and acquired adult values.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-22431674271037431252010-09-25T00:06:07.322+01:002010-09-25T00:06:07.322+01:00I didn't realise she was accompanied by her mo...I didn't realise she was accompanied by her mother Macheath. That didn't do her much good I shouldn't think.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-71758485769763891222010-09-24T22:57:20.552+01:002010-09-24T22:57:20.552+01:00I would say that Richard has it correctly, but tha...I would say that Richard has it correctly, but that the chap was more than a little clumsy. I'm really not too fussed as to why she chooses to adorn herself in such a fashion nor even that her feelings were hurt, more that he displayed a lack of professionalism when such an ability is the very least that is expected of him.<br /><br />William claims that 'on first impressions do you think anyone would hire you?' is a reasonable question and I can understand why, but I would suggest that it isn't. It is a closed question with a yes or no answer. It doesn't lead to any further discussion about what jobs she may be looking for and how and why she may, or may not, be suitable. His job is to help her find a job. If he'd included the word 'why' it would have been valid whilst making a point. Besides, even if one thinks of that as a legitimate question, his follow-up comments were not.<br /><br />It seems to be the consensus that she is facing something of a handicap in the job market, albeit self-inflicted, but that just means that she will probably have to try harder to get a job. Telling her not to bother when your job is to do the opposite seems rather counterproductive to me.<br /><br />And although I can understand the interest as to her job preferences SR, unless you have further sources to refer to, we can only speculate and that really won't solve anything. I think it's fair to say that if she were looking for work as a supermodel, the word 'diet' may crop up somewhere in the conversation, but asking for it to be swiftly followed by a few suggestions regarding current local vacancies to help her get by whilst she's getting in trim isn't too much to ask is it?<br /><br />Myself, I'm curious as to how she's supported herself up to the age of 23, but then I didn't interview her.<br /><br />It is perfectly fair to say that she ought to expect some comment in general regarding her style, but not in such a manner and not from a public servant.<br /><br />I wouldn't have given a damn if she'd left the place with a couple of phone numbers (or even a few pointers to brighten up her CV) but that doesn't appear to be so.BTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06329822079511033338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70607789851946810372010-09-24T22:36:18.266+01:002010-09-24T22:36:18.266+01:00Well, I couldn't give her a job. None of my cl...Well, I couldn't give her a job. None of my clients would take her seriously. To extend the point, I have a colleague who joined the TA and was required to lose his ponytail - he was amazed how much extra and more senior work he got as a result. No change in competence, attitude or even dress (non)sense. Just a haircut.<br /><br />@George Laird<br />"The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University"<br /><br />Wow, that's a real "eats shoots and leaves" footer (I typo'd 'shotts' there too - :) ). Just how narrow is your campaign? Just asking as a GU lecturer!Surreptitious Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393411103584747731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-9897862172507294492010-09-24T22:00:39.079+01:002010-09-24T22:00:39.079+01:00She said she was also advised to 'stand behind...<i>She said she was also advised to 'stand behind a wall' or to 'put a paper bag over your face'.</i><br /><br />At least according to the Telegraph headline, which used the terms 'told' and 'advised'.<br /><br />However, the paper then quoted her as saying,<br /><br />"He said: ' look at it this way if you were to stand behind a wall - or put a paper bag over your face do you think you would have a better chance?' "<br /><br />As William pointed out, the advisor was asking her a hypothetical question - that she took it literally is obvious from her reaction. This was obviously one of those situations where rhetoric is best avoided.<br /><br />Incidentally, she was accompanied to the interview by her mother, who managed to put her oar in as well.Macheathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04451439759398780345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-41331540741152039752010-09-24T20:34:07.712+01:002010-09-24T20:34:07.712+01:00Yes she does Richard, but she shouldn't take o...Yes she does Richard, but she shouldn't take offence when someone tells her she's not suitable for a particular job. We don't know the type of work she wanted of course.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-34831605140260194312010-09-24T20:32:42.970+01:002010-09-24T20:32:42.970+01:00I actually agree with your comment William and see...I actually agree with your comment William and see it as the common sense of the article.<br /><br />75? She'll look strange at 60.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-1503907093896193902010-09-24T20:31:39.085+01:002010-09-24T20:31:39.085+01:00En route Indyan.En route Indyan.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-20387406968781426842010-09-24T20:31:16.176+01:002010-09-24T20:31:16.176+01:00I see your view Derek and agree it is sad. Back i...I see your view Derek and agree it is sad. Back in the 60s many of us dressed 'inappropriately' according to our parents, but we didn't mutilate ourselves this this lassie.<br /><br />She's quite bonny and to do that to herself is quite extraordinary. Surely she knows about piercings and tattoos at her age?subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-91288137831926842972010-09-24T20:28:33.509+01:002010-09-24T20:28:33.509+01:00BTS, I agree he wasn't professional in some wa...BTS, I agree he wasn't professional in some ways, but at times some of us feel the truth is better than the lie.<br /><br />But of course she could be employable in certain areas. I'm sure she didn't want to be a TV presenter. Then again...subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-79256472840164834282010-09-24T20:15:33.664+01:002010-09-24T20:15:33.664+01:00She has the perfect right to look as she wishes to...She has the perfect right to look as she wishes to. And employers have the perfect right not to employ her. That's the reality, and what the JC adviser was trying to say, albeit a little clumsily.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15743685798068014455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-23188330189466195722010-09-24T18:36:17.689+01:002010-09-24T18:36:17.689+01:00BAA security were going to offer her a job, but wi...BAA security were going to offer her a job, but withdrew it when she set the alarms off at her interview.Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829909061904690380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-75619449425876421882010-09-24T18:15:01.336+01:002010-09-24T18:15:01.336+01:00Oh Demetrius, you'll have to get together with...Oh Demetrius, you'll have to get together with Clarinda. The pair of you could have a wonderful satirical blog.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-16659837816617397442010-09-24T18:14:10.036+01:002010-09-24T18:14:10.036+01:00I can't see why her feelings were hurt when sh...I can't see why her feelings were hurt when she must know, at the age of 23, that facial piercings aren't appreciated by most of the population Buckingham.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-23362885499398146632010-09-24T18:12:34.551+01:002010-09-24T18:12:34.551+01:00Auch Clarinda, why can't I be as witty as you?...Auch Clarinda, why can't I be as witty as you? Certainly made me smile.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70352325185884642202010-09-24T18:11:41.885+01:002010-09-24T18:11:41.885+01:00You have Alec, you have. :)You have Alec, you have. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70149524039307943512010-09-24T18:10:48.086+01:002010-09-24T18:10:48.086+01:00George, I was talking to friends from Warwickshire...George, I was talking to friends from Warwickshire last night (tories) and they were saying the collar and tie is definitely coming back down their way. Even the liberal candidate wears one when on duties meeting the public - and the greens.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70519089251867367112010-09-24T18:09:20.202+01:002010-09-24T18:09:20.202+01:00Hi Indyan.
Auch there are plenty jobs which don&#...Hi Indyan.<br /><br />Auch there are plenty jobs which don't involve being the public face of an organisation. Just depends what capabilities she had.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.com