tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post1406810938156406600..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: The Vatican and the Silly Civil Servantsubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-48557460372052839482010-04-26T17:57:53.474+01:002010-04-26T17:57:53.474+01:00A great many anti-papists would indeed consider th...A great many anti-papists would indeed consider that list detailed ...."The ideal visit".<br /><br />So, the problem is - whoever drew up the specification failed to define the preferred audience.Joe Publichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829909061904690380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-48845740486925804742010-04-26T17:12:22.354+01:002010-04-26T17:12:22.354+01:00I see the pope is to bless a new stained glass win...I see the pope is to bless a new stained glass window...<br /><br />http://rantinrab.blogspot.com/2010/04/pope-unveils-new-stained-glass-window.htmlRantinRabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557178651491442917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-46462414573562168352010-04-26T16:43:21.895+01:002010-04-26T16:43:21.895+01:00I'd agree with you there Tuesday. Paul Ross i...I'd agree with you there Tuesday. Paul Ross isn't funny but he's nothing to worry about because he's paid a fortune just the same.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-44390141751638395982010-04-26T16:42:41.433+01:002010-04-26T16:42:41.433+01:00There is indeed RA and also there are several ways...There is indeed RA and also there are several ways people interpret information.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-42118953021086604482010-04-26T15:38:00.755+01:002010-04-26T15:38:00.755+01:00I heard Paul Ross fighting back tears on This Morn...I heard Paul Ross fighting back tears on This Morning talking to Holly and Phil about this. Phil said he's done similar stuff (but not about The Pope) and Paul Ross protested that it just wasn't funny. He knows all about not being funny.Tuesday Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07992744440120656167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-14445401663541172462010-04-26T14:30:30.026+01:002010-04-26T14:30:30.026+01:00I would have been more than satisfied if they'...I would have been more than satisfied if they'd sent equally pertinent memos to the Whitehouse pre the idiocy of Afghanistan and Iraq.<br /><br />There's many a truth hidden within jest and if truth hurts it's generally with reason. <br /><br />This memo would get my vote.Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230294511455500220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-87321590152725776932010-04-26T14:08:33.812+01:002010-04-26T14:08:33.812+01:00That doesn't offend me Marvo. Thanks for aski...That doesn't offend me Marvo. Thanks for asking though.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-90559588869953832262010-04-26T14:04:43.924+01:002010-04-26T14:04:43.924+01:00@Rosie:
Feel free to pull this comment if I offen...@Rosie:<br /><br />Feel free to pull this comment if I offend you.<br /><br />@Ciara:<br /><br />I assume you're a Catholic with a capital C, as in Roman? If so, what are you doing thinking for yourself?<br /><br />Look, nobody is generalising about Catholic priests and young boys. Only Irish ones, and not even all of them. The Church, especially the Catholic one, has been doing what it wants (not in a Dan Brown stylee either) since the Spanish Inquisition.<br /><br />And of course they do some good. If they didn't, they'd be closed down.<br /><br />Anyone seen their audited accounts recently?<br /><br />Even God had a sense of humour. Otherwise She wouldn't have created men.<br /><br />Please lighten up. Jesus.Uncle Marvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00146362608723100601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-36254710840693248662010-04-26T14:03:17.100+01:002010-04-26T14:03:17.100+01:00Clara, the point of my post was to publish the who...Clara, the point of my post was to publish the whole list written by a stupid civil servant and to make the point that I feel the Vatican has overreacted with it's threat of cancellation.<br /><br />In fact the reason I wrote it was because a Catholic friend of mine called this morning and she found the furore quite ridiculous. I won't divulge the conversation further but suffice to say to her (and others at her church yesterday) were far more concerned about the motive behind the exposure of this than the action.<br /><br />Have you ever participated in a brainstorming session? That's the kind of list which could well emerge and some stupid, well paid civil servant, instead of destroying the flip chart list, actually wrote it in an internal memo.<br /><br />No I'm not a Catholic. I'm not a member of any church but I respect other religions in the same way as I expect them to respect mine.<br /><br />If you think the post is an attack on the Catholic church then you're wrong. It's a comment on how the Vatican is overreacting by suggesting it could cancel the visit. I say in the post that I know many who look forward keenly to this visit and perhaps I should have spelled out that I consider the Vatican, to threaten cancelling, is extremely unkind to these people.<br /><br />All churches have failings, they're run by humans after all.<br /><br />I've nothing to forgive if you've decided to take my post as a slight against Roman Catholics in general. It is plainly not written in that context. It is a criticism of the Vatican PR machine in over-drive.<br /><br />Are you saying only Catholic priests do good works? Or perhaps you don't know many of other Christian religions have also done so through the centuries - one in particular being a heroine of mine Mary Slessor. That's mainly because she was a Dundonian and a female (very unusual in those days).<br /><br />Oh by the way, I'm not an SNP blogger or a member of the SNP. I support them because I think they truly are concerned with the future of Scotland and because I also support independence.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-63207583544055354502010-04-26T13:13:30.035+01:002010-04-26T13:13:30.035+01:00I'm disappointed to see you push the 'oh, ...I'm disappointed to see you push the 'oh, can't they take a joke' line, which seems to be the standard response in Britain these days when the giving of deep offence has been the intention (this goes doubly for your 'cartoon' and accompanying caption below). It diminishes your judgment in my estimation -- not that you care, I'm sure -- unfortunately and ironically the day after I recommended you to someone as an SNP blogger of discernment!<br /><br />As regards the email itself: some 'jokes' should simply stay in the pub, if joke indeed was the intention. I can't imagine the private company that would allow such a use or abuse of company time; yet this is done on the public purse. Unprofessional is the least of the charges that could be laid against it.<br /><br />And as regards the child-abuse scandal: I can tell you that there is not one Catholic I have spoken to who does not feel it keenly -- most of us are parents, after all -- and who does not think the abusers should be in jail. <br /><br />The savagery of attacks on the Church and particularly on the Pope (who has worked personally to root out the poison of paedophilia -- a fact ignored by the media, of course) has nothing to do with caring for the victims. Don't think for a minute we don't know this. <br /><br />I'm guessing you're not a Catholic. Yesterday was Good Shepherd Sunday in the Catholic Church, with prayers for vocations to the priesthood. I could tell you about the work done by ONE of our priests in setting up and running a church charity to pay for the housing of the physically and mentally handicapped in our local community, to allow them to live semi-independent lives. I could tell you about the tireless work done for the homeless by another. Or, further afield than Scotland, of the work of priests and nuns in the Third World, living in villages with local communities, working to raise their standards of living. I could tell you about the everyday pastoral work done by these clerical men and women who, again unlike many of us, have lived lives that have made a positive difference in the lives of hundreds of people. But that would be a bit too po-faced; where would be the joke in that?<br /><br />Too often people feel free to criticise, making themselves feel virtuous by pointing out the failings of the Church. So what do they do to make the world a better place for themselves and for others? A bit more humility and a bit less 'joking' might be in order for all of us. <br /><br />I hope you'll forgive my sense of humour failure. Good luck to you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239245687945388389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-43492716421804562402010-04-26T12:16:44.032+01:002010-04-26T12:16:44.032+01:00Afternoon Marvo. Well I was hoping my educated re...Afternoon Marvo. Well I was hoping my educated readership would know that. :)<br /><br />Things haven't changed then in the FO. 50 years ago it was jollies, big salaries and incompetence. The FO was always a good number for Scots who came in the top 3 in the old civil service exams.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-6314771057240287452010-04-26T12:14:17.957+01:002010-04-26T12:14:17.957+01:00Yet labour are still employing public servants OR....Yet labour are still employing public servants OR.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-28700478942433013382010-04-26T11:56:44.973+01:002010-04-26T11:56:44.973+01:00"does follow"?
You neglect to mention t..."does follow"?<br /><br />You neglect to mention that the taxpayer funds the silly civil servant, too. Jobs in the FO are in great demand, for it entails doing sweet FA most of the day and then retiring early on loads.<br /><br />I know some of them. Creme de la creme. Trough de la trough.Uncle Marvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00146362608723100601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-89922868587425921372010-04-26T11:54:58.592+01:002010-04-26T11:54:58.592+01:00This highlights the standards Labour have pervaded...This highlights the standards Labour have pervaded throughout our Civil Service. Broken? You bet.Oldrightiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192587284458430556noreply@blogger.com