tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post107118233693551526..comments2023-08-10T12:55:23.427+01:00Comments on SUBROSA: Upper And Lower House Stupiditysubrosahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-63248472775726420252012-01-09T06:46:22.335+00:002012-01-09T06:46:22.335+00:00Subrosa,
It would be my pleasure.Subrosa,<br /><br />It would be my pleasure.Gedguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217515188959770657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-60458474888937543552012-01-09T02:56:31.615+00:002012-01-09T02:56:31.615+00:00Glad to hear it Gedguy. When you're here, if y...Glad to hear it Gedguy. When you're here, if you've time to have a coffee with an auld wifey, then email me. I'm in Dundee a few times a month for one reason or another.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-64545071190991374282012-01-09T02:55:17.250+00:002012-01-09T02:55:17.250+00:00It could be neither RM by the sound of it.
Poor S...It could be neither RM by the sound of it.<br /><br />Poor Sudanese. What are we doing to help after all the rhetoric? Nothing.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-32171856854345828662012-01-09T01:10:43.264+00:002012-01-09T01:10:43.264+00:00Subrosa,
Thanks but not to worry, I'm doing O...Subrosa,<br /><br />Thanks but not to worry, I'm doing OK. seriously though, she's well on the mend now. I'm hoping to come up in May. Spend a wee while in Dundee and then tour the Highlands. I might even bring her along too, if she behaves herself.Gedguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217515188959770657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-55674142133038516782012-01-08T23:57:04.413+00:002012-01-08T23:57:04.413+00:00Could be SR.
There was a great story in The Telegr...Could be SR.<br />There was a great story in The Telegraph about Michael Brown..<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9000137/Michael-Brown-Lib-Dems-fraudster-donor-facing-justice-at-last.html<br /><br />Like you say he was up to his old tricks in Dominica. Playing golf and walking his dog called Charles ( named after his champagne and private jetset friend the former lib dem leader Mr Kennedy ) while allegedly ripping off the locals twice and living with his 'bidie in' ( he's fae Glesga). His guard said he looked sad as he sat in the stinking ladies prison (sic) surviving on rice and veg ( sounds ok) and waiting to hear if he'll face prison in Dominica first then England. Or neither.<br /><br /><br />I see things aren't going too well <br />in South Sudan, the world's newest state. Thousands massacred despite the new country being the UK coalitions 'priority'...<br /><br />http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/thousands-massacred-as-two-tribes-go-to-war-in-south-sudan-6286342.html<br /><br />Meanwhile theRMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-82331267909116332102012-01-08T23:46:34.532+00:002012-01-08T23:46:34.532+00:00Thanks for the link CH. It's now headlines on ...Thanks for the link CH. It's now headlines on Sky news.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-7258711816800548512012-01-08T23:43:10.377+00:002012-01-08T23:43:10.377+00:00It could be a bit of both RM don't you think?
...It could be a bit of both RM don't you think?<br /><br />From what I've read their benefactor's arrest is nothing to do with the warrant on him from the UK. He certainly seems a bit of a wide boy.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-64427230873706730372012-01-08T23:41:04.294+00:002012-01-08T23:41:04.294+00:00Auch Gedguy, that's a bummer. When she's o...Auch Gedguy, that's a bummer. When she's on the way to recovery a trip here might do her the world of good.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-13085723431849018952012-01-08T23:22:03.212+00:002012-01-08T23:22:03.212+00:00Bluff and bluster from Downing street.<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/alancochrane/9001384/Cameron-Ill-bar-SNP-from-holding-independence-vote.html" rel="nofollow">Bluff and bluster from Downing street.</a>cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-10192448819738137672012-01-08T18:28:00.277+00:002012-01-08T18:28:00.277+00:00SR. Do you think Nick is just being used to cause ...SR. Do you think Nick is just being used to cause mischief in Scotland ? Knowing his party faces wipeout and he has a safe euro job lined up then maybe he's just doing what he's told.<br />Or maybe he's really acting in 'good faith'. Like when the Lib Dems said they were acting in 'good faith' when they refused to hand back the multi million donation from Michael Brown that was later found to be stolen money.<br />Despite Brown living in Majorca and not being eligible to donate they happily took millions from the former cook who claimed he went to St Andrews Uni and Gordonstoun and was the son of a Lord lol.<br />Brown is on his way home from the Carribean to do his 7 years in prison. I wonder if he'll meet with an 'accident'.RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-28841488344839758332012-01-08T18:27:57.411+00:002012-01-08T18:27:57.411+00:00You're not being pedantic Crinkly, you're ...You're not being pedantic Crinkly, you're being observant.<br /><br />The diaspora - if an independent Scotland becomes a country in which they have economic faith, (in other words think they could make a good living), quite a few would return.<br /><br />I'm a member of a few diaspora internet groups and I'm usually embarrassed by their knowledge of Scotland - both past and present.<br /><br />Crinkly, some of my friends recognise the benefit of Scotland becoming independent because they know it's perhaps the only event, in a couple of generations, that will shake the Westminster government out of their complacency.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70542334835445650702012-01-08T18:21:26.747+00:002012-01-08T18:21:26.747+00:00Tern, this is perhaps the most racist comment I...Tern, this is perhaps the most racist comment I've ever received on this blog and I use the word racist in its true context.<br /><br />That apart I could stop my response there but I do have a few questions.<br /><br />Why should a person's country of birth and their pride in it be racist? <br /><br />80% of Scots born outside Scotland? Eh?<br /><br />Of course people are defined by either their birthplace or heritage. There are those who are born outside the country of their heritage but they should have the choice to choose.<br /><br />Cliff Richard was born in India of English parents because his father worked there at the time. Is Cliff Indian?<br /><br />Sport in the UK now permits players whose great-great grannies were Scots/English/Welsh although they were born in another part of the world. Have you complained and called these sport associations racists and bigots?<br /><br />I won't go on. Can't be bothered.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-834996757978111912012-01-08T17:55:26.769+00:002012-01-08T17:55:26.769+00:00RM, thank you for the link and for reminding me.RM, thank you for the link and for reminding me.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-68631900473822594222012-01-08T17:54:53.016+00:002012-01-08T17:54:53.016+00:00Right enough Tris, but I remember that was one of ...Right enough Tris, but I remember that was one of my Latin teacher's favourite quotes, roughly 'desperate times need desperate measures'.<br /><br />Oh the noble Lord was born in Oswestry Tris. Now Oswestry is bang on the border of England and Wales. I've never discovered which side of the 'divide' the Lord appeared all these years ago.<br /><br />But I have noted no Welsh person has claimed him as a respected Welshman.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-8511614880509711512012-01-08T17:50:27.894+00:002012-01-08T17:50:27.894+00:00Michele, I'm not with you here, unless you thi...Michele, I'm not with you here, unless you think Scotland is just a small part of England (being the dominant population).<br /><br />The future of England, Wales and N Ireland is up to the people who reside in these countries. It's not the responsibility of those in Scotland.<br /><br />Thankfully my parents never felt like 'guests' when my father had to move to England, back in the 60s, because of work. In my own years of living and working in England I never felt as if I was a 'polite guest' - any more than I did when I lived in Europe. My contribution to the respective economies was on par with others or, in the case of working in Europe, I wouldn't have been welcome.<br /><br />That's a long time ago now though and things have changed.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-10076545734192189872012-01-08T17:45:02.802+00:002012-01-08T17:45:02.802+00:00subrosa,
No, she hasn't but wants to visit. S...subrosa,<br /><br />No, she hasn't but wants to visit. She can't just now as she is fighting cancer. When she gets better I'll try and bring her up. Its been a while since I've been up.Gedguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217515188959770657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-70097959284331294292012-01-08T17:42:53.659+00:002012-01-08T17:42:53.659+00:00Superb analogy Crinkly - as always.Superb analogy Crinkly - as always.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-43534252068075268772012-01-08T17:42:17.407+00:002012-01-08T17:42:17.407+00:00That's the one Gedguy.
There has to be a defi...That's the one Gedguy.<br /><br />There has to be a definition behind any referendum and the one the Scottish government has taken - people then resident in Scotland - is fair.<br /><br />I'm being nosey now but, has your girlfriend ever been to Scotland? The wind from the sea can be chilly in Dundee, but the air...<br /><br />Since I was a wee lass I've had rosy cheeks! These days they're assisted by Clinique I think it is. :)subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-89039923463040971072012-01-08T17:39:04.132+00:002012-01-08T17:39:04.132+00:00I can't agree more with you about Clegg JRB. ...I can't agree more with you about Clegg JRB. In fact I do call his behaviour amusing but it is also dangerous, given the position he holds.<br /><br />Because of that he deserves no respect from me.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-42451612552724538322012-01-08T17:00:19.487+00:002012-01-08T17:00:19.487+00:00Bern, I don't follow your logic in the followi...Bern, I don't follow your logic in the following:<br />"The Scottish diaspora numbers 20 million, the home population is 5 million. It follows that at least 80% of all Scots were not born in Scotland."Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-536123199833544162012-01-08T15:55:05.765+00:002012-01-08T15:55:05.765+00:00Oh, I also forgot my other grandfather who died 3 ...Oh, I also forgot my other grandfather who died 3 months before the end of WWII when he fell off a building he was demolishing in the east end of London leaving my grannie to bring up all those kids-including my mother-on her own-no charge.Gedguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217515188959770657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-27162059451379582832012-01-08T15:45:46.948+00:002012-01-08T15:45:46.948+00:00Michele,
"I don't expect gratitude"...Michele,<br /><br />"I don't expect gratitude"<br /><br />Really? Neither do I when I was a fireman on Merseyside for over 6 years and put my life on the line-no charge.<br />Neither do I when I served in the army for 4 years and put my life on the line-no charge.<br />Neither do I when I was a joiner [carpenter] for most of the time rebuilding London, and, pre H&S, put my life on the line-no charge.<br />Neither do I when my brother served in the RN for over 8 years-no charge<br />Neither do I when my father served in the army for 8 years fighting in Korea [where he was blown up by a Chinese mortar at the battle of the Hook], then served in Kenya [where my eldest brother was shot in the face-no charge.<br />Neither do I when my Grandfather was gassed in WWI and then was bedridden for the rest of his life-no charge.<br /><br />Do not assume that just because we helped build and maintain your country that we were/are all freeloaders. I do not expect gratitude off the English as I was brought up better than that-no charge.Gedguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217515188959770657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-39585555888309784312012-01-08T15:33:32.255+00:002012-01-08T15:33:32.255+00:00Hate to be pedantic -but have we a racist in our m...Hate to be pedantic -but have we a racist in our midst.<br /><br />Scots are 'guests' in England and shouldn't upset their hosts?<br /><br />10% dictating to 85% the quality of democracy! A bit disengenuous that one as the 'democracy' of the 85% already exists and the 10% are only asking for the right to stay within the present arrangement or opt for their own version.<br /><br />Finally, as part of the diaspora, is it not conceivable that if the drive to independence succeeds, it could create the catalysts that improves the democratic process for the rump UK and removes the deficit inferred in the opening paragraph.Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08902364411241935656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-83930352991366979332012-01-08T14:17:51.948+00:002012-01-08T14:17:51.948+00:00Not only does it insult "born and bred" ...Not only does it insult "born and bred" Scots, whatever they are, worldwide, it insults all the Scots who were born and bred all over the world. The proposal involves a form of racism common to school bullies and football hooligans and responsible for a lot of violence: Birthplace racism. The practice of believing that birthplace, the location of one arbitrary event at one moment, has any shred whatever to do with who and what any person is.<br /><br />The Scottish diaspora numbers 20 million, the home population is 5 million. It follows that at least 80% of all Scots were not born in Scotland. Every bullying bigot who says being Scottish is determined by birthplace defines the vast majority of the Scottish people out of existence, which means, commits genocide. Of the Scots and of every dispersed people, which remember includes the Jews too. It just needs adequate publicising of this to prove this voting proposal illegal because racist. Think of the discrimination it does within the same family if siblings were born in different countries. <br /><br />Also it insults all the folks who were born in Scotland but are not Scottish, who maybe disliked it here and left. If I was given a vote in a Welsh referendum on this same basis, I would feel racially assaulted by it, because it would be a bureaucratic foul-up classing me as anything else than Scottish. The diaspora who have returned to Scotland will have votes obviously, by residence, but what of the diaspora who have yet to achieve return? which is an agonising position of economic injustice to be in, and I was in it until age 26 in the 90s depression, and there has been a glaring lack of interest by the SNP in fighting for all the diaspora to have an automatic right to the economic means to return. I can swallow not having the vote in exile on grounds of residence, but not on grounds of bigot birthplace racism.ternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17710224070068773971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8116690042850060767.post-53743557617804415262012-01-08T14:10:02.847+00:002012-01-08T14:10:02.847+00:00It's a bit hypocritical ( but not surprising) ...It's a bit hypocritical ( but not surprising) that Clegg thinks Scots who want independence are extremists.<br />The people of South Sudan who wanted independence were praised by the coalition who thought that "Sudan’s future lies in the hands of its leaders" and Sudan " will be the priority for the UK Government...<br /><br />http://ukun.fco.gov.uk/en/news/?view=Speech&id=22920072RMcGeddonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01665173796157838927noreply@blogger.com